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Old 08-12-2008, 07:31 AM   #151
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Now I'm wondering - Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World are pretty much mandatory high school reading in the US. Is it the same in Australia?
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:03 AM   #152
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For those not opening the link, apparently the little girl who sang in the opening ceremony was lip syncing and the real singer was a 7 year old girl. The 7 year old girl won the contest to sing, but apparently wasn't cute enough to be in the ceremony because of buck teeth.

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I have no problem with lipsyncing in performances such as these. Performing in arenas with noise and echos is incredibly difficult, and I would assume even more so for a young girl.
I agree with you scaeagles, what the Chinese government (or producers/director I guess) decided to do here was just heinous.

I was watching a broadcast of the men's gymnastics last night and I was very happy for the Chinese male gymnasts. They were crying at the end when they realized their goal, and I could tell they really worked so hard. [Well, aside from the fact that as a Communist country those gymnasts will get first class housing and treatment just like all the old athletes did from behind the Iron Curtain, and that if they failed they would probably be publically flogged and sent to prison... wasn't it the Iraqi soccer players who were threatened with imprisonment if they didn't do well? I forget.]

Truly truly sad. Talk about a doing a Milli Vanilli on the public. I agree, I can live with CGI. I'm OK with lip syncing in a crowded arena to be heard above the din. But to replace a girl because she wasn't as cute? Puhlease.

And sceagles, it wasnt' just buck teeth. The girl on the right is far more photogenic--she's cuter. But dear god, this is just horrible.

I'll say it. I can't STAND the Chinese government. Can't stand them. Absolutely no love lost here. Alex and I were seriously contemplating spending money to visit the panda reserves in a few years but frankly I don't want to give them anymore money than I already am by buying Disney merchandise made in China.

Here's the photo of the two girls (the one of the left is the "homely" one with the beautiful voice):

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Old 08-12-2008, 11:10 AM   #153
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Now I'm wondering - Animal Farm, 1984 and Brave New World are pretty much mandatory high school reading in the US. Is it the same in Australia?
Never read, never read, and never read. Holy cow, where was I in high school? (Oh yeah, with my nose deep in Victor Hugo novels)

edit: huh... the one of the left is cute enough... you expect bad teeth on kids, they're growing.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:11 AM   #154
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And had there not been a side by side comparison everyone would have awwwwwwwwed her too. No country in the world (besides China) would have said "you bring shame to China and the world for having not perfect teeth". No one would have made any comment or notice.

Stupid Chinese government.
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:14 AM   #155
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I've read all three of those but none of them were required reading for me in high school (and in my opinion only one of the three is particularly special).
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:11 PM   #156
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At a lot of live events that are broadcast, the use of taped footage is common. Even when the taped footage is meant to look like live footage.

ie. There was a Janet Jackson concert shot live in Hawai'i. Two identical versions were shot. One was with an audience and one was beforehand without an audience. This allows for certain shots to be inserted into the live broadcast and the DVD that is made afterwards.
I was at the show and when a curtain didn't fall correctly around Janet and just hung there in the first few minutes of the concert, they stopped the show and restarted. I'm thinking there would have been continuity issues if the curtain was allowed to hang there and the curtain was gone in the previously shot footage.

Pre-recorded footage allows the cameramen to get certain shots that they can not get live. Close-ups, etc. They would have had a hell of a time shooting the footprints fireworks with cameras stationed everywhere and helicopters...

And lip-syncing happens all the time. (Whitney Houston's Star Spangled Banner... lip synced.) But replacing the kid with another more appealing kid is just freakin' lame. Reminds me of the whole C&C Music Factory thing, replacing big Martha Walsh with a skinny model for the video.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:39 PM   #157
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The kid singing is one of the only part of the ceremonies I actually managed to catch (in between painting projects). I can't remember if it was during that segment or another one where the voice over guy mentioned about the participants being "average" kids and how that was so important to the ceremony. And I remember thinking that the girl "singing" was obviously lip syncing, which was fine under the circumstances, but that she looked kind of....artificial. I dunno. Maybe I'm weird, but I actually think the real singer is cuter.
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Old 08-12-2008, 12:55 PM   #158
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Maybe I'm weird, but I actually think the real singer is cuter.
I find the stage kid cuter, for whatever that is worth.
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:11 PM   #159
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Am i the only one who likes the parade of cuties ....er, parade of nations?
You are definitely not the only one who enjoys the procession of beautiful blokes!

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The last runner was on wires, and they launched him up into the sky, over to one of the top walls running around the stadium (near the scrim), then all of a sudden, he pops one side of his wires, dropping him into an angle
That moment freaked me out! I thought one of his wires had broken and audibly gasped.

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My only complaint is that the music during the March of Nations was boring and repetitive. I mean... 20 repeats of the same bagpipe number? Come on... why?
Oh dear gawd yes! And why bagpipes for any country other than Scotland and maybe Ireland? I believe at least one previous opening ceremony had music selected to match the country being announced. That was way cooler in my opinion.

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Absolutely brilliant use of LED technology.
Yes. A thousand times yes! By far my favorite aspect of the OCs.

And though it was decidedly low-tech, I thought the idea of having all the athletes literally leave their footprints on the painting was inspired. And a nice connection to the opening (albeit virtual) footprints across the land.

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I'm still a little perturbed that Bush is there, but I think the ceremony and NBC did a pretty good job of framing the argument in favor of this kind of engagement.
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He didn't much look like he wanted to be there. The cameras caught him looking bored more than a few times.
I actually thought it was cool for Bush to be there, especially in the regular old bleachers. (Even if he was in the World Leader section.) That said, I think a head of state needs to be able to feign interest--even if the presentation is frightfully jejune. Looking bored and/or at his watch is a horrible reflection on the USA and just plain rude.

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And when was the last time you saw goose stepping military?
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Old 08-12-2008, 02:20 PM   #160
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Has anyone mentioned the countdown? That was awesome.
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