The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 362

scaeagles · 08-08-2008, 01:46 PM

They respected him? Seriously you are joking. Thatcher, certainly, but Reagan was viewed as a senile old man who deperately wanted an excuse to nuke the Soviets, particularly amongst the general population, though I suppose I can't speak about any other leaders, save Mitterand, and he had no respect for Reagan. For the most part he opposed Reagan.

innerSpaceman · 08-08-2008, 02:38 PM

Um, no, that was what I thought of Regan, not what the Euro's thought.

BarTopDancer · 08-12-2008, 03:00 PM

Cyberspace attacks precede Russia/Georgia War

sleepyjeff · 08-12-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Cyberspace attacks precede Russia/Georgia War

Scary stuff.

BarTopDancer · 08-12-2008, 03:40 PM

Because Nothing Could Possibly Go Wrong

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The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the National Marine Fisheries Service announced Monday that they are proposing major changes to the Endangered Species Act, a move that critics say will dramatically weaken federal protection of threatened plants and animals.

The announcement came after the Associated Press obtained a draft proposal of the rule changes [PDF], which seek to bypass the review process for construction projects, such as highways, dams, and mines. Currently, under section 7 of the Endangered Species Act, federal agencies must consult with scientists at the Fish and Wildlife Service or the National Marine Fisheries Service to determine whether a project is likely to affect any of the 1,353 animal and plant species listed as endangered or threatened.

The draft rules, which do not need to be approved by Congress but are subject to a 30-day public-comment period, would let each agency decide for itself whether a project would harm listed species.

scaeagles · 08-13-2008, 06:50 AM

Interesting theory.....It is floating around out there that should Edwards affair had been revealed early in the primaries or before them that Clinton may have won the nomination.

Whether this is true or not (who knows - I haven't tried to analyze it at all and of course it is all conjecture) isn't what I'm wondering, but discussion on that would be interesting. I'm wondering the effect of this on the rabid Clinton supporters who already are struggling with Obama having the nomination, and what that might mean for the dem convention.

Strangler Lewis · 08-13-2008, 06:56 AM

I would think most of them would be over that by now, especially since a vote for "maverick" John McCain is looking more and more like a vote for another George Bush term.

scaeagles · 08-14-2008, 07:27 AM

I think it's time for Cheney to invite Putin to Wyoming for a hunting trip.

I have come to the conclusion the Putin wishes to restore the former Soviet Union. He is former KGB, basically rewrote the Russian constitution to allow himself to still be in control of Russia after his term was over, was most likely behind the poisoning of the Ukrainian guy because he wants to stop Ukraine for joining NATO, is refusing to abide by the cease fire in Georgia (and note that I am not complete against limited military action by Russia due to Georgia's entry into South Ossetia), and other laundry lists of items.

I fear we are headed for another cold war and that this is an issue that should be well quizzed when McCain and Obama begins debates.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-14-2008, 07:32 AM

Aww, good ol' Pootie-poot? He's our bestest bud!

innerSpaceman · 08-14-2008, 07:37 AM

Just trying to demonstrate their dominance over the Caspian Sea natural gas pipelines that were built to avoid going thru Russia.

Russia's had quite a turnaround over the past 8 years, and has become perhaps the world's greatest energy power in terms of natural gas ... which sees widespread use in Europe. They're just flexing their muscles and saying, 'not so fast ... we can ultimately control everything that goes thru this region, whether it's officially our territory or not.'

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Um, no, that was what I thought of Regan, not what the Euro's thought.
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08-13-2008, 06:50 AM	#3616
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Interesting theory.....It is floating around out there that should Edwards affair had been revealed early in the primaries or before them that Clinton may have won the nomination. Whether this is true or not (who knows - I haven't tried to analyze it at all and of course it is all conjecture) isn't what I'm wondering, but discussion on that would be interesting. I'm wondering the effect of this on the rabid Clinton supporters who already are struggling with Obama having the nomination, and what that might mean for the dem convention.
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08-13-2008, 06:56 AM	#3617
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I would think most of them would be over that by now, especially since a vote for "maverick" John McCain is looking more and more like a vote for another George Bush term. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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08-14-2008, 07:27 AM	#3618
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I think it's time for Cheney to invite Putin to Wyoming for a hunting trip. I have come to the conclusion the Putin wishes to restore the former Soviet Union. He is former KGB, basically rewrote the Russian constitution to allow himself to still be in control of Russia after his term was over, was most likely behind the poisoning of the Ukrainian guy because he wants to stop Ukraine for joining NATO, is refusing to abide by the cease fire in Georgia (and note that I am not complete against limited military action by Russia due to Georgia's entry into South Ossetia), and other laundry lists of items. I fear we are headed for another cold war and that this is an issue that should be well quizzed when McCain and Obama begins debates.
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08-14-2008, 07:32 AM	#3619
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Aww, good ol' Pootie-poot? He's our bestest bud! __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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08-14-2008, 07:37 AM	#3620
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Just trying to demonstrate their dominance over the Caspian Sea natural gas pipelines that were built to avoid going thru Russia. Russia's had quite a turnaround over the past 8 years, and has become perhaps the world's greatest energy power in terms of natural gas ... which sees widespread use in Europe. They're just flexing their muscles and saying, 'not so fast ... we can ultimately control everything that goes thru this region, whether it's officially our territory or not.'
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