Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Um, he's offereing the Olive Branch to Hillary's substantial army of supporters, whom he NEEDS to have a remote hope of winning the election.

Agreed. But in doing so he gave Hillary basically what she wanted. And this in no way means she's going to play nice and throw real support behind him. Her supporters will certainly recognize (and I believe have) the lack of genuineness in her support.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

I hate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Oh, that's just because you don't want to see women succeed!

*ducks*

[innerSpaceman]

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

[lashbear]

isn't this election over yet ?? *sheesh*

you usa'ns shore do hayav lawng erect elections....

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Agreed. But in doing so he gave Hillary basically what she wanted. And this in no way means she's going to play nice and throw real support behind him. Her supporters will certainly recognize (and I believe have) the lack of genuineness in her support.

So you're saying that instead of being the bigger person and being nice to her in an attempt to bring the Clinton supporters home, he should give her and her supporters the cold shoulder? How is that supposed to help?

Oh wait, that's Republican foreign policy. I see your "logic".

Originally Posted by lashbear

isn't this election over yet ?? *sheesh*

you usa'ns shore do hayav lawng erect elections....

Technically, the election hasn't begun yet. The conventions kick it off, and that's not until late August. The "season" started ridiculously early this time around.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

Link? I hadn't heard this.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

So you're saying that instead of being the bigger person and being nice to her in an attempt to bring the Clinton supporters home, he should give her and her supporters the cold shoulder? How is that supposed to help?

Oh wait, that's Republican foreign policy. I see your "logic".

Big, big difference between being nice and capitulating to demands in the interests of getting along.

And I feel like I need to take a shower. You quoted me and attributed it to ISM.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

You know, people were really complaining about this well before Hillary conceded--people I know who have been actively donating and fundraising for Obama's campaign has zero interest in helping Clinton pay off her debts.

I mean, if you had a neighbor who kept leaving bags of burning dog poo at your door, trying to splash acid on your car, played loud music at all hours of the night on speakers faced at your bedroom...

and then one day, your neighbor accidentally burnt down her house because she was trying to put together a row of molotov cocktails to throw at your garage when she tripped and lit up her own house, I mean, do you REALLY want to help her pay for her home repairs?

[wendybeth]

Thank you, Tenigma, for so clearly and humorously illustrating my thoughts on the matter. Obama owes Hillary zip- she's a snake who will turn around and act true to nature whenever possible, and the thought of her having any part of an Obama Administration makes me a bit ill. I wish I could like her more, but she keeps doing sneaky, destructive things that lead me to believe that she will not be a graceful loser and will continue to divide the party in the coming months. I don't know how Obama can achieve unity with her behaving like she has- it really is up to her to step up to the plate.

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, so it's ok for him to just break his word, because he now feels she's undeserving? And how it it any less duplicitious and snakelike of him to go back on a pledge for such illegitimate reasons as HE dedided he no longer owes the money he promised to raise in return for the money SHE promised to raise and already DID for him?


That's not even good enough for my ex-boyfriend, much less the next president of the United States.


Pfft.

[scaeagles]

When you make deals with snakes you should expect to get bitten. not a snake example, but the whole fable of the scorpion and the frog comes to mind.

I can't speak to or of his motivations, but I think it clearly demonstrates something about him in how he will deal with opposition to the US. I'm sure there will be cries that this is a ridiculous example, but I don't think it is. He is dealing with someone who has been an opponent and has demonstrated little integrity. In the interests of unity and her support, he gives away something he probably shouldn't have, and now has to deal with the ramifications. And I would suppose that she isn't going to be giving him the kind of support and cheerleading he is expecting.