To the moon, Alice!

RStar · 08-29-2008, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Will you take a dime into outer space for me?

A dime of what? Wouldn't that be intergalactic smuggling??

I enjoyed the show as well.

But I've got one stupid question. I've seen some pretty detailed pictures of the moon. Why isn't it possible to just take a picture of the lunar lander to or Apollo 15 landing site showing the things left behind to prove we landed there? Or would people just think those phtos were faked as well? Or is it that the angle is never right to get it?

Moonliner · 08-29-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RStar

Why isn't it possible to just take a picture of the lunar lander to or Apollo 15 landing site showing the things left behind to prove we landed there?

You mean like this?

RStar · 08-29-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

From Earth? Because those things are small and we're far away.

How small? The biggest things left behind by the Apollo missions were abour 20 feet wide. When we point Hubble at the moon it has a resolution of about 100 feet per pixel.

Europe's SMART-1 satellite took pictures from orbit around the moon and I think it never had a resolution better than 50ft per pixel or so.

Keep in mind that all those really high resolution photographs in Google Earth are taken from airplanes only a half dozen miles away at most.

That's what I thought, but I was thinking that if Hubble can take pictures of things light years away, why not a twenty foot size item on the moon? But what I forgot is that the things Hubble is taking pictures of light years away are huge galaxys; and they are emitting their own light.

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

You mean like this?

Cool! Thanks! But the problem with those pictures are 1) that they are only spots, and 2) what's the proof that they are the Apollo 15 landing site? It's good enough for me (not that I ever doubted we landed, of course), but the skeptics may not be convenced.

Moonliner · 08-29-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RStar

Cool! Thanks! But the problem with those pictures are 1) that they are only spots, and 2) what's the proof that they are the Apollo 15 landing site? It's good enough for me (not that I ever doubted we landed, of course), but the skeptics may not be convenced.

The skeptics are not looking for truth. They have a separate agenda.

Perhaps they just like to question stuff
Perhaps they don't like the US
Perhaps they just like to piss people off by arguing absurd points.

Whatever it is, they will never be convinced by something as trivial as facts.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-29-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Whatever it is, they will never be convinced by something as trivial as facts.

No, the ones creating and perpetuating the conspiracy theories will never be convinced. All you can hope to do is put enough factual information out there so that otherwise uninformed people will be exposed to it rather than the idiocy.

RStar · 08-29-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

The skeptics are not looking for truth. They have a separate agenda.

Perhaps they just like to question stuff
Perhaps they don't like the US
Perhaps they just like to piss people off by arguing absurd points.

Whatever it is, they will never be convinced by something as trivial as facts.

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No, the ones creating and perpetuating the conspiracy theories will never be convinced. All you can hope to do is put enough factual information out there so that otherwise uninformed people will be exposed to it rather than the idiocy.

We should just round them all up and send them to a moon base to get them out of the way. They could live in the unit next to those who think Elvis never died which is next door to the one with all the people who think Walt Disney's head is frozen and stored under POTC in Disneyland.

Moonliner · 08-30-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RStar

We should just round them all up and send them to a moon base to get them out of the way. They could live in the unit next to those who think Elvis never died which is next door to the one with all the people who think Walt Disney's head is frozen and stored under POTC in Disneyland.

So what you are saying is that if I believe in Elvis, I get to go to the moon base?

ELIVS LIVES!

Disneyphile · 08-30-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

The skeptics are not looking for truth. They have a separate agenda....
Perhaps they just like to piss people off by arguing absurd points.

I think this is quite true, because most of the skeptics I know also hate seeing people happy, often calling them "stupid". So, it's like they want to debunk anything and everything to prove to the world that they are "smart" and the rest of the world is "stupid", when in reality, they're just using "skepticism" as a facade for their own insecurities about why they don't fit in with the world. And, I've noticed they're not very happy people in general.

I'm not saying all skeptics are like this, but a lot of the ones I've met are constantly wanting to debunk everything to the point of obsession. I've had to restrain myself from saying, "The rest of the world are not all nutjobs. It's just you."