All About McCain - Page 20

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm sure there are plenty of McCain supporters who would be troubled by the working mom mystique.

The what?

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 11:06 AM

I find it disappointing that a good percentage of Hillary supporters may be voting for McCain. I understand the desire by some Clinton supporters to see a woman in the White House. I get it. But putting McCain in office in the hopes to see Palin someday become president seems counter-productive to me in terms of women's issues. Palin is pro-life. She would be okay with the government telling her what she can or can not do with her own body. How is this liberating for women? I'd be interested to see where she's at with contraception, but I'm thinking that she doesn't know what that is with all them kids she has. (That part is me joking.)

Also, I find it hypocritical for someone to be pro-life and pro-death via capital punishment. "Life is sacred... sorta."

I also find it hypocritical for someone to say they have gay friends and love their gay friends but would stop them from getting married to someone they love. That's wishy-washy to me.

This is just me venting.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-29-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I find it disappointing that a good percentage of Hillary supporters may be voting for McCain. I understand the desire by some Clinton supporters to see a woman in the White House. I get it. But putting McCain in office in the hopes to see Palin someday become president seems counter-productive to me in terms of women's issues.

This brings up an interesting point. I would imagine that Hillary is pretty furious at this choice, and there is no way that she is going to simply sit back and let this woman potentially steal her future chances at being the first woman President.

And while I think Biden will be very hard on her in the debates, he still has to take great caution to not appear sexist. Hillary is under no such pressure. And by the time she gets done with this woman, I think it is going to be very hard for her supporters to vote for McCain in good faith.

Hillary might have considered staying out of the spotlight, had McCain chosen anyone else. Not now. Hell hath no fury, and all that.

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2008, 11:19 AM

Heheheh, good point, McCain just ensured she's going to campaign like a runaway truck for Obama.

Idiot.

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I was listening to a radio show last night with a bunch of 20-something guests, and by a large margin they thought Obama was full of crap and were going to vote for McCain! I was astounded. I thought Obama had the young voter block locked up??? What's going on?

(ok, it was the puny sample of kids on SuPerR K!'s Downstairs Mixup, but I was astounded nonetheless.)

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 11:20 AM

Unless you're taking orders from the Pope or the Patriarch, I don't see anything hypocritcal about being anti-abortion and pro-capital punishment. The key distinction typically is "innocence."

Not Afraid · 08-29-2008, 11:21 AM

Palin has 5 children, one that is 4 months old with Down's Syndrome. Her husband is not a stay at home Dad. She has time to be VP?

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 11:23 AM

MBC, that's a great point. If Hillary is truly an Obama ally, she will speak out against Palin.

I believe there is a way for Biden to debate Palin effectively without coming across as being sexist. But any Biden response to something she says could be spun that way (by the media, by the GOP etc) with enough creativity.

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 11:29 AM

Oh, and Happy 72nd Birthday, Senator McCain! Good thing the media is not talking about that, eh John?

Strangler Lewis · 08-29-2008, 11:31 AM

I think Hillary can cattily say that it's nice to see that the Republicans have picked a candidate for vice president who would not be the de facto president. Beyond that, she should focus on John McCain.

3894 · 08-29-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Palin has 5 children, one that is 4 months old with Down's Syndrome. Her husband is not a stay at home Dad. She has time to be VP?

So much for family values.

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I believe there is a way for Biden to debate Palin effectively without coming across as being sexist. But any Biden response to something she says could be spun that way (by the media, by the GOP etc) with enough creativity.

Women want a level playing field. Think Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher. Biden should go after Palin with everything he's got and she should go after him likewise. The fact that it was even brought up shows the perception of a less-qualified candidate in McCain's running mate.

08-29-2008, 11:06 AM	#192
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I find it disappointing that a good percentage of Hillary supporters may be voting for McCain. I understand the desire by some Clinton supporters to see a woman in the White House. I get it. But putting McCain in office in the hopes to see Palin someday become president seems counter-productive to me in terms of women's issues. Palin is pro-life. She would be okay with the government telling her what she can or can not do with her own body. How is this liberating for women? I'd be interested to see where she's at with contraception, but I'm thinking that she doesn't know what that is with all them kids she has. (That part is me joking.) Also, I find it hypocritical for someone to be pro-life and pro-death via capital punishment. "Life is sacred... sorta." I also find it hypocritical for someone to say they have gay friends and love their gay friends but would stop them from getting married to someone they love. That's wishy-washy to me. This is just me venting.
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08-29-2008, 11:19 AM	#194
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Heheheh, good point, McCain just ensured she's going to campaign like a runaway truck for Obama. Idiot. * * * * I was listening to a radio show last night with a bunch of 20-something guests, and by a large margin they thought Obama was full of crap and were going to vote for McCain! I was astounded. I thought Obama had the young voter block locked up??? What's going on? (ok, it was the puny sample of kids on SuPerR K!'s Downstairs Mixup, but I was astounded nonetheless.)
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08-29-2008, 11:20 AM	#195
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Unless you're taking orders from the Pope or the Patriarch, I don't see anything hypocritcal about being anti-abortion and pro-capital punishment. The key distinction typically is "innocence." __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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08-29-2008, 11:21 AM	#196
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Palin has 5 children, one that is 4 months old with Down's Syndrome. Her husband is not a stay at home Dad. She has time to be VP?
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08-29-2008, 11:23 AM	#197
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	MBC, that's a great point. If Hillary is truly an Obama ally, she will speak out against Palin. I believe there is a way for Biden to debate Palin effectively without coming across as being sexist. But any Biden response to something she says could be spun that way (by the media, by the GOP etc) with enough creativity.
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08-29-2008, 11:29 AM	#198
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Oh, and Happy 72nd Birthday, Senator McCain! Good thing the media is not talking about that, eh John?
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08-29-2008, 11:31 AM	#199
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I think Hillary can cattily say that it's nice to see that the Republicans have picked a candidate for vice president who would not be the de facto president. Beyond that, she should focus on John McCain. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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