All About McCain - Page 25

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I'm not swayed by the "heartbeat from the Oval Office" angle. Over 58 Presidential terms, only 8 have not been completed by the person ...

You don't think the chances are increased for these particular nominees?

A 72-year old (btw, Happy Birthday, John) in an office that ages you at an alarming rate?

A black man who's going to bring out every crazy with a rifle to take pot-shots at him?

Yes, it's morbid. But assassination attempts will quadriplicate if Obama wins, and McCain can't take the first term's 10 years of aging without expiring of natural causes.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-29-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I'm not swayed by the "heartbeat from the Oval Office" angle. Over 58 Presidential terms, only 8 have not been completed by the person elected. No matter who MIGHT, in the rare, ~15%, instance of the elected President not finishing the term, take over, it's not going to make me want to vote for or against someone who would definitely be in the office if I wasn't going to vote for or against them before.

McCain is 72. The life expectancy of a male in the US without a history of melanoma is 75. I think it is a valid concern.

Tom · 08-29-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Yeah, I think the experience thing is still a losing proposition for Obama.

I don't think that Obama will start going out of his way to attack McCain-Palin for a lack of experience. It just gives him a ready-made comeback anytime Republicans bring it up.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-29-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog

Well except as President of the Senate under the US Constitution.

But besides that, they're basically a Presidential lackey

Where the whole of his duties is breaking tie votes which happens a little less than once per year on average.

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

You don't think the chances are increased for these particular nominees?

A 72-year old (btw, Happy Birthday, John) in an office that ages you at an alarming rate?

A black man who's going to bring out every crazy with a rifle to take pot-shots at him?

Yes, it's morbid. But assassination attempts will quadriplicate if Obama wins, and McCain can't take the first term's 10 years of aging without expiring of natural causes.

Higher odds? Sure. But so? I still can't base my vote on a hypothetical. I am voting for President of the United States, not "The person who might become President if something happens." If I disagree with a candidate, at what point do I stop caring about how much I disagree with the person I'm voting for just because they've got someone who would take over and be a little more to my liking? It seems nonsensical to me.

3894 · 08-29-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

But it almost makes me want to vote for her simply as a form of apology for the number of people who's second response to her nomination (after "who?") was an evaluation of her ****ability.

Level playing field requires we discuss McCain's ****ability. On a scale of 1 to 10, -50.

Gemini Cricket · 08-29-2008, 01:41 PM

I'm sorry but Bill's first term and Obama now... totally f*ckable.

Tenigma · 08-29-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3894

Level playing field requires we discuss McCain's ****ability. On a scale of 1 to 10, -50.

Wow, you actually gave a number.

btw we should ask Ms. Cindy. Alex said there's talk that he uses Viagra.

Alex · 08-29-2008, 01:54 PM

I want to be clear, I never said he uses Viagra.

I said, I think that is part of why he handled the question about Viagra insurance coverage vs. birth control insurance coverage so poorly (that one where he sat for 10 seconds rubbing his face trying to come up with an answer and just looked really stupid).

He was trying to think of a way to answer without discussing Viagra and giving sound bites that could be used for ridicule as would be inevitable every time a 70+ man talks about Viagra.

I'm with GD, the risk of vacancy is higher but VP still only comes into play for me if I am not able to make a decision based on the top of the ticket candidates themselves. I'd never say "you know, I like candidate X better than Y, but I wouldn't care for X's veep as president so I'm going to vote for Y."

So unless everything else really were equal, it is moot. I'm interested in who they choose, it just doesn't have an impact.

BarTopDancer · 08-29-2008, 02:00 PM

I know of one person who thinks that the woman angle is good. To bad he doesn't promote women in his own workplace.

innerSpaceman · 08-29-2008, 02:55 PM

Well, I don't usually give a rat's ass about V.P., but I happen to like Joe Biden. I'm not sure why. I don't particularly like his record. And he shoots himself in the foot more often than not when he shoots off his mouth.

But I think I love that he's so free with shooting off his mouth.

So ... since i get barely a pulse-increase from Obama and am mostly voting for him, as I always do, to prevent the far worse Republican from getting the job, I think I will for the first time be voting for the ticket because I like Joe Biden ... and I think his son Bow is totally hot.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I want to be clear, I never said he uses Viagra. I said, I think that is part of why he handled the question about Viagra insurance coverage vs. birth control insurance coverage so poorly (that one where he sat for 10 seconds rubbing his face trying to come up with an answer and just looked really stupid). He was trying to think of a way to answer without discussing Viagra and giving sound bites that could be used for ridicule as would be inevitable every time a 70+ man talks about Viagra. I'm with GD, the risk of vacancy is higher but VP still only comes into play for me if I am not able to make a decision based on the top of the ticket candidates themselves. I'd never say "you know, I like candidate X better than Y, but I wouldn't care for X's veep as president so I'm going to vote for Y." So unless everything else really were equal, it is moot. I'm interested in who they choose, it just doesn't have an impact.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, I don't usually give a rat's ass about V.P., but I happen to like Joe Biden. I'm not sure why. I don't particularly like his record. And he shoots himself in the foot more often than not when he shoots off his mouth. But I think I love that he's so free with shooting off his mouth. So ... since i get barely a pulse-increase from Obama and am mostly voting for him, as I always do, to prevent the far worse Republican from getting the job, I think I will for the first time be voting for the ticket because I like Joe Biden ... and I think his son Bow is totally hot.
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