All About McCain - Page 40

Sub la Goon · 09-01-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Boy, as quickly as news about Palin is breaking, you have to wonder if she'll make it to November.

I will be surprised if she lasts the week.

JWBear · 09-01-2008, 11:30 PM

I feel I must ask our conservative friends here... Do you really feel comfortable voting for a presidential candidate who has shown such an alarming lack of judgment, in both himself and in the advisers he surrounds himself with? If you truly want what's best for the country, why would you vote for someone who has already demonstrated such a high level of incompetence? Can you honestly - deep down in your heart - believe McCain would be a better, more competent leader than Obama? Or are you only voting for him because he's Republican?

scaeagles · 09-02-2008, 05:04 AM

I would figure you're basing that largely on the choice of Palin?

I don't consider the Palin choice to show a lack of good judgement, so I can't really comment as to that. The only other thing I can think of is the advisor who said somehtng like "the economy is fine, Americans are whiners", which was certainly ill advised and ignored the fact that many Americans are hurting (however, there is always a segment of the population that is....while I loved Reagan, my dad was serially unemployes during the 80s).

So I am voting based on the policies I think are best for America. Fiscal conservatism (please understandthat I know Bush is no fiscal conservative).....well, no need to list tham all. I have before.

And honestly, what she did almost two decades ago as far as her political affiliations doesn't matter much to me, nor does a drunk driving charge 22 years ago, nor does the fact she smoked marijuana when it was legal (and she at least admitted to inhaling), nor does a pregnant daughter.....

Strangler Lewis · 09-02-2008, 05:43 AM

I don't care about her husband's DUI or about the mere fact of her daughter's pregnancy. As we learn more about her family, and we will, I may conclude that her handling of the matter reflects poorly on her as a) a person, b) a politician or c) both.

I do think that her apparent support for Pat Buchanan's candidacy is pretty close to supporting David Duke's and merits questions. (Maybe she just liked his isolationism.) The same with her membership in a group advocating Alaska's secession as there is no mechanism for state secession in the U.S. Constitution.

innerSpaceman · 09-02-2008, 06:51 AM

Well, i can't fault her for that. I'm a STRONG supporter of California secession ... but of course, I'm not running for any office of the (I-don't-want-them-to-be-) United States.

scaeagles · 09-02-2008, 06:56 AM

Well, 20 years ago (well, 18 technically) is a long time ago. If she still thinks it's a good idea, then I might see an issue.

And i wouldn't mind seeing CA secede either, Ism.

Tom · 09-02-2008, 07:03 AM

For what it is worth, a Rasmussen poll shows women view Palin's candidacy notably less favorably than men.

innerSpaceman · 09-02-2008, 08:14 AM

Ah, the MILF factor.

scaeagles · 09-02-2008, 08:18 AM

In our backwards country where republican men think women are lesser creatures, I'm actually surprised by this. I'd figure democrat men are solidly in the Obama camp, and republican men would be threatened by a woman in leadership.

JWBear · 09-02-2008, 08:30 AM

Her association with the AIP did not end 18 years ago. She still has ties, and she sent a video greeting to their annual convention earlier this year, praising them.

He picked her without doing a thorough vetting. It was an impulsive choice aimed at pandering to women and the religious right extremists. That was very poor judgment.

09-01-2008, 11:30 PM	#392
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I feel I must ask our conservative friends here... Do you really feel comfortable voting for a presidential candidate who has shown such an alarming lack of judgment, in both himself and in the advisers he surrounds himself with? If you truly want what's best for the country, why would you vote for someone who has already demonstrated such a high level of incompetence? Can you honestly - deep down in your heart - believe McCain would be a better, more competent leader than Obama? Or are you only voting for him because he's Republican? __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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09-02-2008, 05:04 AM	#393
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I would figure you're basing that largely on the choice of Palin? I don't consider the Palin choice to show a lack of good judgement, so I can't really comment as to that. The only other thing I can think of is the advisor who said somehtng like "the economy is fine, Americans are whiners", which was certainly ill advised and ignored the fact that many Americans are hurting (however, there is always a segment of the population that is....while I loved Reagan, my dad was serially unemployes during the 80s). So I am voting based on the policies I think are best for America. Fiscal conservatism (please understandthat I know Bush is no fiscal conservative).....well, no need to list tham all. I have before. And honestly, what she did almost two decades ago as far as her political affiliations doesn't matter much to me, nor does a drunk driving charge 22 years ago, nor does the fact she smoked marijuana when it was legal (and she at least admitted to inhaling), nor does a pregnant daughter.....
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09-02-2008, 05:43 AM	#394
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	I don't care about her husband's DUI or about the mere fact of her daughter's pregnancy. As we learn more about her family, and we will, I may conclude that her handling of the matter reflects poorly on her as a) a person, b) a politician or c) both. I do think that her apparent support for Pat Buchanan's candidacy is pretty close to supporting David Duke's and merits questions. (Maybe she just liked his isolationism.) The same with her membership in a group advocating Alaska's secession as there is no mechanism for state secession in the U.S. Constitution. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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09-02-2008, 06:51 AM	#395
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, i can't fault her for that. I'm a STRONG supporter of California secession ... but of course, I'm not running for any office of the (I-don't-want-them-to-be-) United States.
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09-02-2008, 06:56 AM	#396
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Well, 20 years ago (well, 18 technically) is a long time ago. If she still thinks it's a good idea, then I might see an issue. And i wouldn't mind seeing CA secede either, Ism.
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09-02-2008, 07:03 AM	#397
Tom Valued member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 541	For what it is worth, a Rasmussen poll shows women view Palin's candidacy notably less favorably than men.
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09-02-2008, 08:14 AM	#398
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Ah, the MILF factor.
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09-02-2008, 08:18 AM	#399
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	In our backwards country where republican men think women are lesser creatures, I'm actually surprised by this. I'd figure democrat men are solidly in the Obama camp, and republican men would be threatened by a woman in leadership.
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09-02-2008, 08:30 AM	#400
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Her association with the AIP did not end 18 years ago. She still has ties, and she sent a video greeting to their annual convention earlier this year, praising them. He picked her without doing a thorough vetting. It was an impulsive choice aimed at pandering to women and the religious right extremists. That was very poor judgment. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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