All About McCain

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm sorry, but if you want fiscal responsibility, you’re not going to find it in the current Republican Party. The last eight years have proven that!

You may not be familiar with my criticisms of Bush that I have posted. Indeed you are correct. Bush spends money in a fashion that would embarrass druken sailors. I hate it. The republican congress he held in his first term went along with what he wanted and it is embarrassing. Honestly that's one of the reasons I like Palin. Her line item veto record in Alaska is impressive in terms of eliminating spending.

[Morrigoon]

Well said, scaeagles.

I can't say that I necessarily believe Obama can "dig us out" financially. However, that's not why I'm choosing to vote for him.

I'm not entirely confident McCain can "dig us out" either. I hope that if he does make it into office, he'll shed his sheep's clothing of pandering to the party and stick to who he originally said he was. But I'm also hoping it doesn't get to that point, because my biggest reason for not voting for him has to do with letting the rest of the party (eg: congress) know that 'business as usual' isn't acceptable. Whereas I think if he gets voted in, it'll be taken as a vote of approval for the way they've been doing things, and we'll see more of it. After all, if the Republicans can't be beaten on the heels of a Bush presidency, when CAN they be?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

You may not be familiar with my criticisms of Bush that I have posted. Indeed you are correct. Bush spends money in a fashion that would embarrass druken sailors. I hate it. The republican congress he held in his first term went along with what he wanted and it is embarrassing. Honestly that's one of the reasons I like Palin. Her line item veto record in Alaska is impressive in terms of eliminating spending.

But Palin won't have that power (unless you are hoping for President McCain's untimely demise). McCain has indicated that he will continue Bush’s fiscal policies. And as you said, the republicans in Congress have made no moves towards fiscal responsibility. So if the Republican Party has demonstrated (for the last eight years) that they give a rat’s patooey about fiscal prudence – indeed, that they represent just the opposite – then why vote for them on that basis? It doesn’t make sense.

[Tenigma]

Sarah Palin -- good lord, where do I start? 17-year-old unwed daughter... should've announced the pregnancy weeks ago locally so as to make it "old news". Instead, she was apparently shunted off and not seen in public until she had to. Do we need anymore proof that abstinence education doesn't work? Hello Mrs. Palin?

She's a rabid pro-lifer... but she has no trouble going back to work three days after giving birth to a special needs child.

OK so I was reading the NY Times online today and I read the following comment, written by a reader, and my eyebrows went WAY high:

Sue Williams, an Alaska Republican who has a blog called Mudflats, posted some very interesting reflections recently on Palin and how she is handling the pressures of parenting 5 children including a recent special needs infant, while working as a governor and now campaigning as a Vice Presidential candidate:

"But it is the same vein - this lack of judgement - Sarah showed, on the campaign trail for governor, when asked who would raise her children should she win, she promptly stated that Todd would quit his job and stay at home with the kids (Todd works a "Slope" week on/week off schedule).

Sarah was elected and then - whoops. Todd didn't like the stay at home gig - so Sarah, citing they needed money for the kid's college (even though Track enlisted in the military) said Todd was returning to work. When asked about her statements on the campaign trail about how Todd would quit his job, Sarah said she'd actually never talked to him about what they would do if she was elected (in terms of his employment) and that she'd spoken out of turn when she spoke for him stating he'd quit his job.

Again, call me picky, but this is the kind of bizarre judgement Sarah routinely displays. Are you kidding me that she would run for governor and she and her husband would somehow not think to have a conversation about what to do with their four school aged kids? That's insane. So, either her judgement is super goofy, or she wasn't telling the truth. Either way, it's not reassuring to now think this is someone who would be one 72 year old heartbeat away from having to call shots for the country/world.

So Todd trots himself back to work and Sarah is busy traipsing around the state and the nation. The kids are "farmed out" (this is the word used by thier associates in "the Valley") to family and friends to raise while Todd and Sarah are off having their respective careers (Sarah is famously quoted as saying, "My mom does whatever I need her to").

During this period is when Bristol, Sarah's sixteen year old daughter, turns up pregnant. So, it's kind of interesting to note that the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee and her sixteen year old junior in high school unwed daughter were carrying babies at the same time. Once Bristol's condition became more obvious this summer, she was whisked out of sight and hasn't been seen in public until yesterday in Ohio. This is why Trig's blanket was strung across her entire abdomen and torso, but, when she walked down the stairs from the stage, in a profile shot, it was very clear to see she is well into her third trimester of her pregnancy.

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For me, once again it speaks to judgement. We all - every single one of us - even Sarah's closest friends in the Valley (I know, I've been speaking to them) know she is in no way qualified for this position. At all.

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How does one dash about the country for the next 66 days trying to pull off an image of the devoted mother of five when she, by and large, isn't the one raising them?

Whoa nelly!!

So I went to go look for this Mudflats blog. It's here. Holy moly -- interesting stuff from a local!! I'm adding her to my RSS feed!

[sleepyjeff]

Let me see if I have this straight......Obama(who is running for actual President) can't be called out for "judgements" he made when he was 17 years old but the daughter of the person McCain chose to the Vice-President is fair game??????

This is why I am not a liberal, I get too dizzy spinning that fast

[innerSpaceman]

Um, no one's questioning the choices of the slut daughter. Oooops, did I say that?


No really, I think she's just a normal kid, with the normal faulty judgment of a 17-year-old.


It's her mom's judgment everybody's questioning. Point me to one instance here on the LoT of someone questioning the daughter's judgment.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I think she came out with that to deny that Trig was not her child as was being reported....well, rumored on blogs, not really reported. I don't think it had anything to do with her teenage daughter having a child out of wedlock.

It's waaay too coincidental that this bizarre Trig rumor popped up just before the announcement that her 17 year old was pregnant out of wedlock.

At best, the Trig rumor was started because Palin's camp was probably scrambling to figure out the best way to spin the real story. Either someone got wind of some sort of baby "scandal" with her daughter and built the Trig thing based on whatever trace of leak they found, or someone maliciously leaked it.

At worst (and I'm aware this is my JFK-addled mind thinking, I don't actually believe this to be true), the Trig rumor was actually started by her camp so that when the true "scandal" was revealed it seemed downright pedestrian next to faking a pregnancy.

Instead, she was apparently shunted off and not seen in public until she had to. Do we need anymore proof that abstinence education doesn't work? Hello Mrs. Palin?

More than a single bit of annecdotal evidence? Yes. Fortunately (or unfortunately), there's plenty more.

[Strangler Lewis]

I've heard a rumor that Trig is actually half vampire.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

More than a single bit of annecdotal evidence? Yes. Fortunately (or unfortunately), there's plenty more.

Wouldn't it have been better for them to simply announce the engagement, with the pregnancy as just a side thing? I think trying to shed more light on the family is unnecessary.

I don't question the 17-year-old daughter. She sounds like a regular kid who got caught doing something she shouldn't have (although I'm sure it doesn't help that her parents never bothered to explain anything about birth control). I do have to wonder why Palin thought it was OK to go back to work three days after giving birth to a special needs baby. But according to the Mudflats blog, she and hubby just farm the kids out to be raised by other people. Whatev.

Keep in mind, people -- this woman wants schools to NOT teach sex ed, and to teach creationist theory. SCARY!!!

But most of all, I think she is just a distraction!

[Tenigma]

PS: Does it piss off anyone else that Palin is going around talking about how she chose to "keep her baby" after she found out the child would have Down Syndrome, when they didn't find out until she was in the second trimester and thus too late to have an abortion?!?!?

Same thing with the daughter. She's also in her second trimester.