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|  09-02-2008, 09:34 PM | #81 | 
| HI! | I  listened to a speech which outlined the blow by blow events of McCain's imprisonment in Vietnam.  Interesting account but then the reasons came s to why this would make him a good President and I almost threw up. Why I was listening, I don't know. | 
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|  09-02-2008, 10:35 PM | #82 | 
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				            | I'm hearing disturbing things out of the Twin Cities. Journalists being detained, kids being arrested for no reason but being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and unjustified raids on peaceful (lawful) protest groups.  My friend in the area posts that the good things from law enforcement (like stopping the attempted riot by 300 of the 2000 protestors) is outnumbered by the bad things. Like detaining 17 year olds for hours and not allowing them to make a phone call. I don't think it's degenerated to actual brutality yet, and I hope it doesn't. But it is looking pretty bad. 
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|  09-03-2008, 04:50 AM | #83 | 
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				            | Is that like the ABC reporter for taking pictures of large dem donors in Denver on a public sidewalk and being arrested? | 
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|  09-03-2008, 06:32 AM | #84 | 
| Kink of Swank | I think it's a matter of scale.  Um, cops suck everywhere, so don't get me wrong.  But the item you refer to was just about the only police malfeasance I heard about at the Dem Convention.  (Though, is it true the protesters there were confined to the Freedom Cage, while those in the Twin Cities are not?) | 
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|  09-03-2008, 06:43 AM | #85 | |
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|  09-03-2008, 06:55 AM | #86 | 
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|  09-03-2008, 08:30 AM | #87 | 
| Not Taking Any Crap! | It's very interesting to note that now the the last two RNC Conventions have featured a Democrat as a prime Tim Speaker, Zell Miller and now Joe Lieberman.  Both of them were (are) Senators  at the time they spoke but the tone of the speeches were different.   "Give 'Em Hell Zell" was fiery and he trashed his party like no one's business. Joe Lieberman didn't talk much about his party. In fact he was more positive about his party than I think the Republicans would have liked. He focused on the ticket and why he thinks it is better than the ticket of his own party (even though he is listed as an Independent, he still considers himself a Democrat). Who knows what history will say about Lieberman after his speech last night but Zell Miller's speech ended up being his swan song. I think that was by his choice because he is now retired and doesn't even say much to the media anymore. But boy did he go out with a bang! | 
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|  09-03-2008, 08:50 AM | #88 | 
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				            | Leiberman took a stand on principal and will be blackballed and stripped on any power by the dem party. | 
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|  09-03-2008, 08:58 AM | #89 | |
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|  09-03-2008, 09:10 AM | #90 | 
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				            | It's been a long time since I heard anyone talk about Israel, peace in the middle East, etc.  Not a word from Lieberman, either. 
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