Republican National Convention '08

[Strangler Lewis]

Maybe they've just got baby lust . . .

but I'm not ready to give up on the rumors.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

It's rather a matter of TRANSLATION. Look it up in the Official Republican Code Book: "Judges Legislating From the Bench" = Approving the Constitutionality of Gay Marriage Rights.

Republicans have been complaining about legislating from the bench for decades.......long before Gay Marriage became a major issue.


Imo the "wink" was for the pro-lifers who have been very wary of this candidate.

According to a google search in which I typed in "judges legislating from the bench" + "blank"

When "blank" was "gay marriage" 6,150 results turned up
When "blank" was "guns" 6,680 results turned up
When "blank" was "immigration" 6,990 results turned up
When "blank" was "abortion" 9,830 results turned up.

So isn't it, if not highly likely, at least conceivable that he was not winking about gay marriage at all?

[innerSpaceman]

Abortion hasn't been "legislated" from the bench since before John McCain was 150 years old.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I suspect that he used used generic code words so that their voting base could slot in whatever pet issue (gay marriage, gun control, immigration, abortion) they wanted to be abolished, and feel great about it.

Of course, the reverse is also true: non-base voters see the code words and imagine he's maligning whatever their pet issue is. (And, he probably is.)

[innerSpaceman]

And I suspect he sucked caulk below decks on navy ships, but has self-loathed his own gayness ever since he was daily buttraped in the Hanoi Hilton and started to like it.



Yeah, that's low and disgusting. McCain's not high on my list right now.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Abortion hasn't been "legislated" from the bench since before John McCain was 150 years old.

Nor has anything involving homosexuality.

The last time I remember anyone leveling the "legislating from the bench" charge during an actual S.C. case was for Schaivo, which had to do with neither abortion nor homos.

And in going over the speech, I thought "that's about abortion" on that part.

Gay rights is certainly a component of what people mean when they refer to "legislating from the bench", but, as corroborated by sleepy's Google results, I've always perceived it to refer primarily to the abortion issue, and when not, then as a general term that means "The Supreme Court came to a conclusion that we don't agree with" not reserved for any issue.

[JWBear]

The right wing is accusing the California Supreme Court of legislating from the bench on their same sex marriage ruling. That's recent.

[innerSpaceman]

And they accused Massachusetts' Supreme Court of the exact same thing.

It most certainly does NOT refer exclusively, or even primarily, to the United States Supreme Court.

In fact, it rarely refers to the U.S. Supreme Court. Since they are the "Supreme" of Supreme Courts, their rulings are not usually demeaned with the legislative monikor, since they can not be appealed to any higher authority.

But because State Supreme Courts have that one higher authority, their rulings on Constitutionality are demeaned with the legislative perjorative.





By the way, it was the infamous Vietnamese Teabagging Torture that finally broke POW McCain and had him wanting to kill himself. He mentioned that incident in his speech last night, conspicously leaving out the important element of faggotry.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I didn't claim that it was only federal Supreme Court, that was just the last time I recall hearing it.

Regardless, I've heard it used for abortion, gun control, gay marriage, affirmative action, you name it. If a Supreme Court ruling falls in line with what's considered a liberal view point, it's decried as "legislating from the bench", no matter the subject matter. I've heard it aimed at so many things I can't possibly agree that he was aiming that specifically at the gay haters.

[scaeagles]

I was actually surpised to hear that McCain's speech drew a significantly larger TV audience than did Obama. Found that to be very interesting....though I don't have any idea what it means.

Edited to add - oops! I misread. McCain had 38.9 million watching, Obama had 38.4. I had originally read that as 34.8. So more, but not significantly more.