All About McCain - Page 62

innerSpaceman · 09-09-2008, 03:57 PM

I love when I'm right from the very start.

I can't get too worked up about it though, since it's always been that way and always will.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-09-2008, 04:14 PM

Hey, that thread is the birth of General You!

Morrigoon · 09-09-2008, 04:31 PM

Old threads are fun! I'd forgotten about my provocation idea. Still would've been a better plan. Wouldn't have changed the outcome any, however. But might've been better for our place in world politics.

scaeagles · 09-09-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

All from a President who, almost 2 years before 9/11, was sitting in cabinet meetings talking about finding a way to depose Saddam.

Zero credibility.

Please forgive my lack of understanding here....how was Bush sitting in cabinet meetings for 2 years when he hadn't taken office until 9 months before it happened? I'm not trying to pick, I just didn't know if he had been privy to cabinet meetings as a Presidential candidate.

While not wishing to go through stuff again that we have debated before without anyone swaying anyone, just would like to say that yes, he was sitting in cabinet meetings (for at least 9 months) discussing how to depose Saddam. I would figure this is because the intelligence coming from the prior administration was talking up the threat Saddam posed. At that point in time, I doubt that he had the pportunity to manufacture or misrepresent the intelligence coming to him. Some cry "vengence for his father!", but I've never bought into that.

Strangler Lewis · 09-09-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

I just chose to keep listening to talk radio and dismiss the anti-war people as kooks and hippies.

Mom?!?

Ghoulish Delight · 09-09-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Please forgive my lack of understanding here....how was Bush sitting in cabinet meetings for 2 years when he hadn't taken office until 9 months before it happened? I'm not trying to pick, I just didn't know if he had been privy to cabinet meetings as a Presidential candidate.

Brain fart.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-09-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Brain fart.

F*ck, I must have been listening to Giuliani too much. 2 years before the invasion of Iraq, not 9/11. Yikes.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-10-2008, 10:51 AM

Re: Palin's eBay story:

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From Sam Stein on Huffington Post

Twenty days after putting the jet online, the Palin administration had to reissue the listing. The minimum bid had not been met. By April, the jet still had not sold despite three additional attempts. Eventually, Palin signed a contract with an Anchorage aircraft broker to help succeed where eBay couldn't. In August 2007, eight months after it was first put on sale, the jet was sold to an Alaskan businessman for $2.1 million -- $600,000 shy of the purchasing price.

"The eBay thing didn't work out very well," Dan Spencer, director of administrative services for the Department of Public Safety (the individual charged with trying to get rid of the plane) told the Anchorage Daily News in April 2007. "I am [tired of dealing with it]," he added. "I don't know about anyone else."

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

Moonliner · 09-10-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Re: Palin's eBay story:

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

I thought the point was that she sold the jet rather than using it. I don't see how the mechanics of the sale matter that much. She said she put it up on ebay and she did.

scaeagles · 09-10-2008, 11:00 AM

Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset. The aircraft in question was purchased in 2005 and sold in 2007. While there are varying depreciation tables for aircraft, a common one in our system is 20% the first year, and 32% the second year. Considering they sold the plane for 22% less than the original purchase price, that's actually better than depreciation tables might suggest it should have sold for.

Also, I don't think she clained to have made a profit. It was that she got rid of it.

Edited to add - Now I see that Moonliner is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing.

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Old threads are fun! I'd forgotten about my provocation idea. Still would've been a better plan. Wouldn't have changed the outcome any, however. But might've been better for our place in world politics. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset. The aircraft in question was purchased in 2005 and sold in 2007. While there are varying depreciation tables for aircraft, a common one in our system is 20% the first year, and 32% the second year. Considering they sold the plane for 22% less than the original purchase price, that's actually better than depreciation tables might suggest it should have sold for. Also, I don't think she clained to have made a profit. It was that she got rid of it. Edited to add - Now I see that Moonliner is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing.
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