All About McCain - Page 63

Ghoulish Delight · 09-10-2008, 11:03 AM

Yes, but she did tout it as her idea when, in fact, the article points out that the state had been doing that with large items for several years before she was in office.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-10-2008, 11:08 AM

The rest of the article says that it was common practice to put big ticket items on eBay, previous governors had done it before her. By not hiring an agent to sell this particular white elephant, the state of Alaska incurred $62,492.79 in payments every three months during the eight months the jet didn't sell.

Shall we talk about "Thanks, but no thanks," next?

Gn2Dlnd · 09-10-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset.

Just wanted to acknowledge this. I have zero professional expertise in the matter. It's just that unconfronted lies and hyperbole irritate the living sh!t out of me.

innerSpaceman · 09-10-2008, 11:18 AM

The jet sale is a meh. But what about her billing the state something like 216 days for staying in her own home?

I think the issue is not the individual items that keep cropping up on a daily basis ... rather it's the very fact that items keep cropping up on a daily basis.

I've never seen a vice-presidential candidate dominate the news so much. And it's potential scandal after potential scandal. Maybe the Republican base will see Palin as beleagured, but I think Johnny Voter is going to see her as Trouble.

Perhaps it was just plain stupid to pick a nobody, whom the press is just discovering. Biden likely has just as many skeletons, but those bones have long been picked over and the press doesn't care. Palin may be no more or less crooked than any politician, but the media is having a field day digging up stuff on a new pol.

McCain is a moron. And I think this evidence of his poor decision making ability is one of the worst markers for him making a good president.

Moonliner · 09-10-2008, 11:18 AM

I guess I'm just slow. With all the crap there is on Palin: Anti-choice, Draconian views on sex education, and on and on....

Why are you focusing on a good thing she did? She got rid of a costly albatross.

She had the idea to put the plane on Ebay. No, it was not the first item ever offered on ebay. So what?

OK, it did not sell there. If it had how much would that have saved in broker fees?

How much per month was the state saving by not using the jet? I'll be it was more than the ~20k monthly payment.

Edited to add - Now I see that ISM is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-10-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Being that I work in the property tax industry, including personal property, I'd like to point out that aircraft is a depreciating asset.

You know, unless you're in the selling-airplanes-on-ebay business, your uninformed opinions are meaningless.

Gn2Dlnd · 09-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Like iSm says, it's just another example. I'm not focusing on the damn plane any more than her taking all the ear-marks she can get, then bemoaning ear-marks, or her per-diem scam, or her, to me at least, frightening personal religious views. It's a package. A sexy, bespectacled cinemax librarian of a package.

Don't look at what I've done, look at what I say I've done! (blows kiss)

Moonliner · 09-10-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Like iSm says, it's just another example. I'm not focusing on the damn plane any more than her taking all the ear-marks she can get, then bemoaning ear-marks, or her per-diem scam, or her, to me at least, frightening personal religious views. It's a package. A sexy, bespectacled cinemax librarian of a package.

Don't look at what I've done, look at what I say I've done! (blows kiss)

At the risk of looking like I'm defending the barracuda...

When she was mayor of a small town she went for all the ear-marks she could get. That is part of a mayors job. I don't fault her there.

As Governor of the state she killed the bridge-to-nowhere. A $200,000,000+ pork barrel project. You can't argue with that. From what little I can see she at least attempted to use federal funds wisely rather than taking a gimme all I can get mentality.

Tenigma · 09-10-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

Palin's stories of high ethics and virtue are melting away faster than the polar ice caps.

To give her credit I believe she said she "put it up on eBay" but she never said she actually managed to sell the thing, or at a profit. McCain said that (because I don't know, someone fed him incorrect information, he just assumed it, or he's, oh I don't know, addle-minded).

innerSpaceman · 09-10-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

As Governor of the state she killed the bridge-to-nowhere. A $200,000,000+ pork barrel project. You can't argue with that.

Yes I can. She's on record supporting the project before it became nationally infamous as the biggest pork-barrel project in history.

Then, and only then, did she turn against it.

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Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	The rest of the article says that it was common practice to put big ticket items on eBay, previous governors had done it before her. By not hiring an agent to sell this particular white elephant, the state of Alaska incurred $62,492.79 in payments every three months during the eight months the jet didn't sell. Shall we talk about "Thanks, but no thanks," next? __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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09-10-2008, 11:18 AM	#624
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The jet sale is a meh. But what about her billing the state something like 216 days for staying in her own home? I think the issue is not the individual items that keep cropping up on a daily basis ... rather it's the very fact that items keep cropping up on a daily basis. I've never seen a vice-presidential candidate dominate the news so much. And it's potential scandal after potential scandal. Maybe the Republican base will see Palin as beleagured, but I think Johnny Voter is going to see her as Trouble. Perhaps it was just plain stupid to pick a nobody, whom the press is just discovering. Biden likely has just as many skeletons, but those bones have long been picked over and the press doesn't care. Palin may be no more or less crooked than any politician, but the media is having a field day digging up stuff on a new pol. McCain is a moron. And I think this evidence of his poor decision making ability is one of the worst markers for him making a good president.
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09-10-2008, 11:18 AM	#625
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	I guess I'm just slow. With all the crap there is on Palin: Anti-choice, Draconian views on sex education, and on and on.... Why are you focusing on a good thing she did? She got rid of a costly albatross. She had the idea to put the plane on Ebay. No, it was not the first item ever offered on ebay. So what? OK, it did not sell there. If it had how much would that have saved in broker fees? How much per month was the state saving by not using the jet? I'll be it was more than the ~20k monthly payment. Edited to add - Now I see that ISM is beating me by mere minutes in terms of posting basically the same thing. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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09-10-2008, 11:26 AM	#627
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	Like iSm says, it's just another example. I'm not focusing on the damn plane any more than her taking all the ear-marks she can get, then bemoaning ear-marks, or her per-diem scam, or her, to me at least, frightening personal religious views. It's a package. A sexy, bespectacled cinemax librarian of a package. Don't look at what I've done, look at what I say I've done! (blows kiss) __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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