All About McCain

[scaeagles]

I can't really speak for Sleepy, but perhaps the kind promoted by Jocelyn Elders, who wanted masturbation taught in school to help prevent the spread of STDs. Now, I don't really know any young male that really needs to be taught it, but I think teaching masturbation (which I don't know, but in terms of stopping the spread of STDs might include mutual masturbation) might involve discussion of techniques or any other number of explicit issues.

"Oh, little Johnny, if you can't seem to excite yourself enough, you can surf the net for some porn or use any number of toys....".

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Now I'm really confused. What kind of "explicit" programs was she referring to, if she's pro-contraception?

Eh, whatever, veep.

Sadly, people are voting for her and not McCain. What a shock they will have if he wins and she's, you know, the VP and not the Prez.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I can't really speak for Sleepy, but perhaps the kind promoted by Jocelyn Elders, who wanted masturbation taught in school to help prevent the spread of STDs. Now, I don't really know any young male that really needs to be taught it, but I think teaching masturbation (which I don't know, but in terms of stopping the spread of STDs might include mutual masturbation) might involve discussion of techniques or any other number of explicit issues.

Masturbation was discussed in my sex ed class. Nothing explicit, it was mentioned as, "It's a natural thing that people like to do and nothing to be embarassd about."

[scaeagles]

It may be a distinction without a difference, but I think "discussing" that it exists and is pretty common and "teaching" it are two different things.

Again, just theorizing.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Here's the thing. If you look just look a the rhetoric, you'd think that there are sex ed classes that somehow hide the concept of abstinence.

Originally Posted by Palin

But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids.

That statement is ridiculous. It's a straw man. Complete straw man implying that people are not just teaching kids how to protect themselves should they make the choice, but are teaching them that not having sex isn't an option. What utter horsesh*t. And so yeah, I find it hard to take the same people's word on the implication that there are classes out there showing kids how to stroke it, teaching them the joys of "the stranger", or instructing girls on the most effective use of The Rabbit.

[scaeagles]

Elders did resign soon after her statements, and I think that was because she meant for it to become pretty explicit. Just my thinking though. I'm not suggesting there are or are not classes like that. I have no idea, really.

I'll even strengthen my statement regarding Elders....I'm positive she wanted much more explicit stuff than was out there.

However, this is not a thread about Elders. I merely suggesting what I think Palin might have been referring to in her "explicit" comments.

[Strangler Lewis]

Only in England.

[BarTopDancer]

I think the most explicit our sex-ed assembly in high school got was demonstrating putting a condom on a banana.

They did also covered that the only 100% way to be sure to not get pregnant was to not have sex but if you're going to have sex here are some things you should think about before hand - and then went into emotional readiness, peer pressure and diseases.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

That statement is ridiculous. It's a straw man. Complete straw man implying that people are not just teaching kids how to protect themselves should they make the choice, but are teaching them that not having sex isn't an option. What utter horsesh*t.

Exactly. I remember in my 6th grade sex ed class being taught abstinence in addition to everything else. In fact, I remember them saying that abstinence was the only 100% sure way to avoid pregnancy, STDs, etc. But they also taught proper use of a condom, what masturbation was, etc. and didn't say that waiting for marriage is what Jesus wants you to do. It was a more clinical thing that our parents were involved in, homework-wise. And they certainly didn't talk about best methods to straddle your vibrator, how to control your gag reflex, or what those holes in the bathroom stalls were.

[Alex]

Everything I know about sex I learned from the episode of Happy Days where Fonzie has to teach the sex ed class.