All About McCain

[Strangler Lewis]

I'd like to think I could stop--or preempt--my high school kids from doing some of the things the article says they do habitually, but that road lies ahead.

Also, if the article is true, then Track's military engagement has been presented in a false light, i.e., that he's answering the call to service and putting "country first" as opposed to being dumped there so someone could get him under control.

I assume that once it's revealed that it's all true, Palin will adjust her stance and say something like, "He had to join up to become a man," and all the solid citizens with pregnant teen daughters and out of control sons will nod knowingly and give her a pass on that, too--the same pass they probably wouldn't give a black family in the same position.

[Alex]

It sheds light. It doesn't seem particularly rational to me in that the logic seems very circular (I like her therefore I like her), but I do understand where you're coming from.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Betty

I'm curious if there is anything at this point, that could be revealed, that would cause you those of you that ARE voting McCain / Palin to NOT vote for them?

If a scandal came out - that was atrocious and seemed likely but couldn't be proved before the election, would you reconsider?

Or is it a democrat/republican thing and you would never in a million years vote for "the other side".

Ultimately, it is a Dem/Rep thing........some scandal, whether it be personal or not, won't change the fact that I believe McCain/Palin will do a better job advancing my concerns for this nation then Obama/Biden. Now, I suppose, if the "scandal" was something along the lines of McCain is secretly planning on pulling the US out of NATO or raising the tax on the top tax bracket to 50%.....then yes, I would change my vote

Btw: The media has shown that they will indeed "uncover" some story that can't be proved right before the eleciton......I'd bet money on it....thankfully, the public is quite use to it now and unless they really can prove it they won't fall for it.

Originally Posted by Alex

A follow up question I'd ask (there's one bit in your response that I consider outright false but it isn't that relevant so I'll leave it be): Without engaging in comparisons to Barack Obama, I'd ask you to answer the following: Palin has no power to do the things that you like about her unless she becomes president (she may be a partner to McCain or at the first sign of disagreement he could put her in a closet to not be seen again for four years). If John McCain dies the day after inauguration, would you consider the country in capable hands?

More capable on the domestic side of things(imho).....on foreign policy, I would assume McCain will already have his team in place(unless he like dies before Christmas...in which case Bush already has people she can use) and can lean on them until she can swim on her own----worked so well with our current President.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Let's see where everyone is. The majority of LoTters are in CA.

Arizona is going to McCain
CA is going to Obama.

I think Moonie is in MD (but I may be wrong)
Steph is in NY
Couple people in WA

Where do those three states typically trend?

Maryland usually goes to the Dems(I think Reagan took it in 84' but no rep since)

New York usually goes to the Dems(I think Reagan took it in 84' but no rep since )

Washington has gone to the Dems the last few times but the race is usually close.

Oregon(hello ) has gone dem since 92' I think.

Here's a good site:


http://www.electoral-vote.com

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I would not have voted for Bill Clinton for policy reasons. I did not doubt his readiness.

Exactly!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

[sleepyjeff]

^That was funny I hate to admit

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

all the solid citizens with pregnant teen daughters and out of control sons will nod knowingly and give her a pass on that, too--the same pass they probably wouldn't give a black family in the same position.

Why did this turn to racism? You could have stopped at the giving them a pass, but then had to make the implication that conservatives are racists, and I find that offensive.

[Strangler Lewis]

I certainly don't think all conservatives are racist. However, the breakdown of the black family is viewed as a major social problem, a root cause of black crime--toughness on crime being more of a conservative issue--and a problem that blacks are expected to fix themselves.

I said it before, if it came out that right after the Democratic convention that Barack Obama had a teen daughter pregnant by a boyfriend who talked tough in a black way on his MySpace page, or that he had a hypothetical teen son who smoked crack, I doubt that all the Republican grandmothers who were sympathetic to Bristol's human plight at the Republican convention would have said similarly nice and forgiving things about Obama's family.

And we know that O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. wouldn't have.

[JWBear]

A lot of the conservative base is racist (among other things).

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

and can lean on them until she can swim on her own----worked so well with our current President.

All about perception, I guess! I'm not finding or remembering much of the Bush presidency that has worked so well. But, that's me, ymmv.

[innerSpaceman]

Really, scaeagles. Know the company you keep. Conservatives have made themselves infamous for being racist. Don't blame the rest of the world for noticing it ... or the rank hypocrisy that's greeted Palin's family problems by the Republican base.