All About McCain

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Does it bother you that Obama chose a running mate who pretty much has said that Obama is not ready to be President?

Well at least Obama is sticking with his message.

Does it bother you that McCain had to drop his entire campaign motto ("Experience you can count on") and adopt HIS OPPONENT'S CAMPAIGN MOTTO ("We need a change in Washington") after he selected his VP pick?

Here's the thing. Obama's said publically that the reason he picked Biden was because he wanted someone to discuss things with, to provide him with opinions, to be a voice, even if it doesn't always agree. In that way by picking Biden he chose someone with a lot of experience to help Obama get a second opinion... instead of picking someone just like him, who would agree with him on everything. I mean, that's what Bush did, and now he's got an entire Cabinet full of yes-men.

That is, Obama chose Biden for the purposes of helping him with his presidency.

McCain chosen Palin because she is a fresh face, charismatic, and a fundamentalist Christianist. She brings excitement to the campaign by galvanizing the conservative core of the party, a group he was having real trouble connecting with (he's changed his views over the years but conservatives still remember him as being quite liberal on abortion, etc.).

That is, McCain chose Palin for the purposes of helping him with his election.

By the way if anyone hasn't read it yet, Eve Ensler of the Vagina Monologues has an editorial up on Huffington Post giving her view on the Palin nomination.

Personally, I think we should treat Palin like Democrats treat Karl Rove; with derision, but without elevating Rove to anything more important than an adviser.

The bottom line is it was McCain's decision to choose her. The election boils down to do we want a 72-year-old man, who has had skin cancer numerous times, and whose body was broken many times (NOT NOT NOT "tortured" mind you---just used advanced interrogation techniques on, just like in GITMO)? I am just dumbfounded that people think this is even a serious question.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

The election boils down to do we want a 72-year-old man, who has had skin cancer numerous times, and whose body was broken many times ..... I am just dumbfounded that people think this is even a serious question.

Well, some of us think the issues are more important than how old the candidate is or how many times he beat cancer.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Well, some of us think the issues are more important than how old the candidate is or how many times he beat cancer.

Yeah... Like the fact he wants to continue Bush's policies....

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Well, some of us think the issues are more important than how old the candidate is or how many times he beat cancer.

Exactly! Which is why I'm voting for Obama.

I don't know if you know, but I'm not wholly against McCain. I just think someone like Obama only comes once in a generation (nacht, TWO generations, if not more), that I would be really doing myself a disservice if I just voted the way I normally vote.

That said, with Palin on the ticket I would be voting Democrat... even if we wound up selecting Hillary. /gulp

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

Exactly! Which is why I'm voting for Obama.

So it doesn't "boil(s) down to do we want a 72-year-old man, who has had skin cancer numerous times"?

Good, I am glad to see that. But lets be honest; if McCain were 10 years younger but still held the same views he does today you would still vote for Obama(I would hope)?

For my part, if Obama was 72 and had just as many years in the Senate as McCain I'd still vote for McCain.....because when you get right down to it, it should not "boil down" to anything except who is going to do better job at championing your causes

[Gemini Cricket]

Don't know how long these will be up:

McCain on The View Pt.1

McCain on The View Pt.2

McCain on The View Pt.3

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

That is, Obama chose Biden for the purposes of helping him with his presidency.

That is, McCain chose Palin for the purposes of helping him with his election.

I am just dumbfounded that people think this is even a serious question.

And I am dumbfounded that you seem to believe there were no political calculations in selecting Biden.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And I am dumbfounded that you seem to believe there were no political calculations in selecting Biden.

Oh I'll admit I'm sure he took into consideration those voters who questioned his resume.

I guess what I wasn't clear on is that I think the choice was made to ensure people during the campaign, that the presidency would benefit from teh VP nom.

I don't think I can say the same for the McCain/Palin ticket.