The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

The whole media bias to the lift argument is ridiculous. The media bias is to the sheep, dumbing down all information to a bland pablum that [strike]people[/strike] sheep feed on with dumb accepting eyes and apparently no brain. Why our culture has become a herd of manipulated sheep is beyond me.

I don't have a lot of time invested in watching TV news. I can only handle about 3 minutes of any news source at one time. But, what I do end up hearing/seeing is crap stuffed into small sound bites. But, as for leaning one direction or another, I only see right-leaning or marshmallow stances. I suspect the left-leaning media bias myth is another piece of pablum that has has been fed to the sheep.

What about this post says anything that applies to Fox News, Scaeagles or anything else specifically? I believe NA is referring to ALL outlets. Same for iSm- nowhere does it say he's talking about anything other than agreeing with NA's rather across-the-board opinion.

[Alex]

I know you work in the industry, but may I say you split a mighty fine hair.

Personally, I don't see any significant difference between "You are delusional" and "You are arrogant." But c'est la vie, I'm sure neither of the aggrieved parties are crying themselves to sleep at night. However, if anything, the former is, to me, more insulting because it rhetorically removes the other person from competency to participate further.

[wendybeth]

I do NOT split hairs. Split ends are anathema to stylists.


Perhaps your right. However, I think there is a wee bit of difference between 'you're delusional if you think' and " You are perhaps the most arrogant and condescending poster here."

[innerSpaceman]

Um, I didn't call scaeagles delusional. If he wants to consider himself a member of the vast group of non-posters that I did call delusional, that's his choice.


Oh, if he fits my definition of the delusional thinkers, then yes, he is a member of the group I called delusional and by extension I then called him delusional after the fact, I suppose.


If he believes we are still a country of small towns, that people from small towns do most of the work in this country as opposed to sub-and-urbanites doing it, believes that it's mostly people from small towns who fight in our wars as opposed to sub-and-urbanites fighting them, and that people from small towns grow our food as opposed to vast corporations ... then, yes, I am flat-out calling him delusional. But I didn't assert he personally had those beliefs.


So, I didnt' do any name calling ... except that, Alex, I'm calling you a muckracker.




ETA: I think I'm in the wrong thread. I'm tellin' ya, we need to roll these all into the Random Political Thoughts Part Deux.

[wendybeth]

Bush acknowledges that we have a little bit of economic trouble:

Financial "Pain" grows worse

"Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co., described this as the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s and the railroad bankruptcies of the 1800s."We've never witnessed this before," said Hogan earlier in the morning, before Bush's speech. "There's no road map for this."

[scaeagles]

Really, I don't mind being called delusional. I don't mind being called a sheep (which I was - since I believe in left wing media bias I must be one of the sheep being fed). I just know that when I have, in the past, made broad generalizations about democrats or people who believe something I have been chastized (not officially mind you, but by others who are offended at my generalizations).

Because of how often I felt this was happening, I decided to start calling others on generalizations they posted, or using names such a delusional (which JW was calling me, or rather a group of people of which I am a member - it wasn't ISM), which really isn't any different than being called arrogant. Whether we want to discuss the admittedly wrong thing I said to 3894 or not, even calling Obama elitist or arrogant, whom last I checked was not a member of the LoT, was the cause of much outrage.

Name calling or generalizations are easy to defend if you agree with them. If you disagree then they are just name calling or generalizations.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

ETA: I think I'm in the wrong thread. I'm tellin' ya, we need to roll these all into the Random Political Thoughts Part Deux.

Errr excuse me you will find that I own the "Random Political Thoughts Part Deux" thread. As such it should only be used for on topic posts per the original intent. So be sure any posts you move there are somehow related to T-shirt slogans. Preferably funny ones. I like the funny ones.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

Bush acknowledges that we have a little bit of economic trouble:

"Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co., described this as the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s and the railroad bankruptcies of the 1800s."We've never witnessed this before," said Hogan earlier in the morning, before Bush's speech. "There's no road map for this."

Sure there is, just turn right at Sarah Palin's Bridge to Nowhere




Oh, and this is what I saw when I initially clicked into this thread.

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[Alex]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

So, I didnt' do any name calling ... except that, Alex, I'm calling you a muckracker.

I didn't say you called anybody any names. But you were quick to take sympathetic umbrage recently at someone else calling someone else names. You gave details on how you'd respond if you were a moderator, you helpfully interpreted for us all the comments of an actual moderator. You made sure it was known that a line had been crossed. I'm just waiting for similar empathy despite you probably agreeing with the characterization this time around.


Personally, I don't consider being called arrogant or delusional to actually be name calling, except insofar as attaching an adjective to a specific person is always name calling. If "you're an arrogant person" is name calling then so is "you're a wonderful person."


All of it is really just my long winded way of saying that despite protests to the contrary there is around these parts a decided slant in when feelings need to be collectively protected from bruising.

Ultimately it affects me little, since I am generally capable of making is perfectly clear that I think someone a fool or whatever adjective is appropriate without actually saying it. But it does fall into that same category as to why it is ok to say fothermucker but not mother****er when the intent and context are exactly the same.

[Moonliner]

Interesting...

Scott Adams (aka the Dilbert guy) commissioned his own report on which candidate will be better for the economy.

It has a lot of interesting facts. Like did you know that the overwhelming majority of economists are registered democrats?


The Scott Adams Report.