The T-Mobile G1 (Google/Android) Phone.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Right now T-Mobile is really irritating me. Their data network has been offline for me most of the weekend and again today. This weekend I was in HB. Today I am in RSM. Grrrr.

Humm, not good. I wonder if it is related to their (finally) setting up a 3G network to support the Android.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Humm, not good. I wonder if it is related to their (finally) setting up a 3G network to support the Android.

No clue. As soon as I posted that it started working.

[swanie]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Humm, not good. I wonder if it is related to their (finally) setting up a 3G network to support the Android.

Here's the date breakdown for the 3G rollout. Looks like yesterday's issues may have been 3G related...

Baltimore - Aug 18th
Houston – Aug 19th
Minneapolis – Aug 20th
San Diego – Sept 15th
Los Angeles – Sept 16th
Phoenix – Sept 16th
Sacramento – Sept 17th
Portland – Sept 18th
Seattle – Sept 23rd
San Francisco – Sept 24th

Also launching sometime in 2008:

Atlanta
Birmingham
Chicago
Dallas
Denver
Detroit
Kansas City
Memphis
Miami
New England
Orlando
Philadelphia
Tampa
Washington, D.C.

[swanie]

As long as the price point comes in at the $149 range, I will most likely jump on the Dream/G1 bandwagon.

Outside of the BB Pearl, T-Mobile doesn't have anything remotely interesting in the smart phone category, so I'm willing to give it a try. I can't beat my rate plan so I won't switch carriers and the rumored data plans certainly sound reasonable. The T-Mobile folks didn't seem to be all that enthused about the Kickstart and with my phone on it's last leg...I don't think I can wait for the Javelin.

The G1 does have some neat features. Have any of you checked out the video of the google maps compass feature? It is a very cool GPS feature. It isn't an iPhone, but I wouldn't shell out the money for an iPhone rate plan. It seems to be a decent compromise and a nifty little toy...provided that it works.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by swanie

As long as the price point comes in at the $149 range, I will most likely jump on the Dream/G1 bandwagon.

Outside of the BB Pearl, T-Mobile doesn't have anything remotely interesting in the smart phone category, so I'm willing to give it a try. I can't beat my rate plan so I won't switch carriers and the rumored data plans certainly sound reasonable. The T-Mobile folks didn't seem to be all that enthused about the Kickstart and with my phone on it's last leg...I don't think I can wait for the Javelin.

The G1 does have some neat features. Have any of you checked out the video of the google maps compass feature? It is a very cool GPS feature. It isn't an iPhone, but I wouldn't shell out the money for an iPhone rate plan. It seems to be a decent compromise and a nifty little toy...provided that it works.

Of course there is the little issue that so far no one has been able to confirm that the G1 will in fact have GPS capability. It is noticeably lacking from the list of features provided so far by T-Mobile.

[swanie]

Well, T-Mobile hasn't really said anything about the Dream/G1.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if they did start pre-sales tomorrow, since their big "announcement" is supposedly coming on Sept. 23rd. The 23rd also marks the date that 3G rolls out in Washington (T-Mobile's headquarters are in Bellevue). I'm guessing that's when they will outline the actual features and pre-sale info, and then phone will release mid-Oct. as rumored.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Touching on the Corporate IT point - it scares me how many people can barely operate a PC. One thing goes wrong and they freak out. Having to access something a slightly different way caused mass confusion and near meltdowns.

I could not see Macs in the every day business world simply because there isn't enough people who are know how to use them or would be comfortable learning the OS.

I cannot argue with any of this - I wholeheartedly agree (unfortunately).

Originally Posted by Moonliner

I'll make you the same offer I did ISM. I think the iPhone is a popular product and it's not going away any time soon but like the Mac vs the PC, the iPhone will be a small percentage of the overall market vs Android. In fact I think Apple wants it that way. It helps preserve the elitist image.

I disagree with this assessment. I don't think that Apple has an interest in an elitist position. I DO believe that they want to continue their history of putting out a consistently quality product that works.

I do not know if the Android will surpass the iPhone in market share: it may, it may not. I doubt the iPhone will ever have a large share of the mobile phone market and I doubt the Android will either.

But my personal history overall is that GENERALLY speaking, Apple products work and do so consistently. I have not had this same experience with comparable non-Apple products.


(And BTW: that ad is considered one of the top ten stupid moves on the part of Apple in their history.)

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I cannot argue with any of this - I wholeheartedly agree (unfortunately).

I disagree with this assessment. I don't think that Apple has an interest in an elitist position.

Perhaps the word "elitist" is not correct.

Apple is not making products for the everyday joe. They are making products for discerning individuals with a higher than average disposable income.

Oh wait, never mind. "elitist" does fit.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by swanie

Well, T-Mobile hasn't really said anything about the Dream/G1.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if they did start pre-sales tomorrow, since their big "announcement" is supposedly coming on Sept. 23rd. The 23rd also marks the date that 3G rolls out in Washington (T-Mobile's headquarters are in Bellevue). I'm guessing that's when they will outline the actual features and pre-sale info, and then phone will release mid-Oct. as rumored.

Today is here with no announcment, it looks like you are correct. The 23rd it is.

[swanie]

Damn I'm good

Additional rumors have presales shipping on 10/13, with the target street date of 10/17.