CA Supreme Court to rule on Gay Marriage today (5/15) at 10:00am

katiesue · 09-24-2008, 12:23 PM

I don't think they could force churches to perform the ceremonies. If you're not an LDS Church member you can't even attend a wedding in the Temple in Salt Lake. If you're not Catholic you can't be married in a Catholic Church or be married without going through their counseling. I don't see how performing or not performing a gay marriage would be any different than the restrictions on a hetro one.

Pirate Bill · 09-24-2008, 01:12 PM

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If you're not an LDS Church member you can't even attend a wedding in the Temple in Salt Lake.

LDS bishops do, on occasion, perform marriages outside the temple. These marriages (as well as any other legally recognized marriage between one man and one woman) are currently recognized by the church.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-24-2008, 01:42 PM

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LDS bishops do, on occasion, perform marriages outside the temple. These marriages (as well as any other legally recognized marriage between one man and one woman) are currently recognized by the church.

That's not what is at issue, however. The point is that the church of LDS retains the right to refuse to perform a marriage if they don't want to.

Gemini Cricket · 09-24-2008, 01:52 PM

My eyes went crossed for a second. I went over to MP to look through a thread where I posted a Letter to the Editor that I wrote. I went through a loooong thread about SSM. It made it to 1000 posts without being closed. I thought that was cool. It was civil and intelligent. Anyway, I found what I was looking for.
Flashback-o-rama!

Kevy Baby · 09-24-2008, 09:30 PM

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There is an important difference between religious marriage and civil marriage. Religious groups and clergy members have a constitutionally protected right to recognize or refuse to recognize religious marriages based on the tenets of their particular faith. That has not changed and will not change (if Prop 8 is voted down). But the government can't treat same-sex couples differently when issuing civil marriage licenses or solemnizing civil marriages.

Thank you. While it is not an official, cited source, it does provide a solid answer.

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That's not what is at issue, however. The point is that the church of LDS retains the right to refuse to perform a marriage if they don't want to.

To be honest, I believe that churches (not just LDS) should be able to retain the right to refuse to perform a Constitutionally legal marriage.

Gemini Cricket · 09-25-2008, 08:24 AM

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Thank you. While it is not an official, cited source, it does provide a solid answer.

It is from the No on 8 site.
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I also emailed one of my friends with Equality California. His answer was the same.

Kevy Baby · 09-25-2008, 09:39 AM

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It is from the No on 8 site.
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I also emailed one of my friends with Equality California. His answer was the same.

Even better; it is now an official cited source! Even more thanks!

09-24-2008, 12:23 PM	#1
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09-24-2008, 01:52 PM	#4
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	My eyes went crossed for a second. I went over to MP to look through a thread where I posted a Letter to the Editor that I wrote. I went through a loooong thread about SSM. It made it to 1000 posts without being closed. I thought that was cool. It was civil and intelligent. Anyway, I found what I was looking for. Flashback-o-rama!
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