All About McCain

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Me, too, sleepy. Obama-supporter here who would criticize him roundly for pulling the McCain.


Next...?

ISm, I happen to believe you because you are not a member of the cult of Obama. There is such a vast number of his supporters though, including most of the news media, that should this have been Obama and he came out and explained why, most would say "wow! what a leader! Putting country first even in the midst of a heated campaign. All the more reason why he is a true Washington outsider putting politics second and exactly why we need this man!"

Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I may just not have read it, but has anyone even expressed concern or given a comment to you Obama is just as in the back pockets of the banks as anyone else treatise?

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

There is such a vast number of his supporters though, including most of the news media, that should this have been Obama and he came out and explained why, most would say "wow! what a leader! Putting country first even in the midst of a heated campaign. All the more reason why he is a true Washington outsider putting politics second and exactly why we need this man!"

Sceagles, not necessarily. But I do not see Obama avoiding the issues at hand. At least he has been in contact with the various Committe Chair, showing some semblance of interest in what is going on in DC. Unlike McCain who contacted them only yesterday.

Frankly, what I read in McCain's actions of yesterday was nothing more than a ploy, be it to buy time, deflect from his dropping poll numbers (whatever they really do mean, not much to me). He had a deer in the headlight look on his face, just as Dubya did in his speech last night. I know he (dubya) was concentrating deeply on the teleprompter, but I saw real fear flickering in his eyes. Course, that's just me.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I may just not have read it, but has anyone even expressed concern or given a comment to you Obama is just as in the back pockets of the banks as anyone else treatise?

Sceagles, not necessarily.

I am sure that if elected, Obama will do lots that may be wrong. Let's face it, he will be inheriting a huge sh!tstorm and the largest steaming pile of doo-doo in decades. He's not perfect, he's not a saint and he's not a miracle worker. I am more than willing to give him a chance.

I can't speak on Obama being in anyone's back pocket, I simply do not know. I'm sorry, I can't forget Keating Five, that much I do know.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

ISm, I happen to believe you because you are not a member of the cult of Obama. There is such a vast number of his supporters though, including most of the news media, that should this have been Obama and he came out and explained why, most would say "wow! what a leader! Putting country first even in the midst of a heated campaign. All the more reason why he is a true Washington outsider putting politics second and exactly why we need this man!"

Perhaps… But maybe because if Obama did say it first that he’s much more likely to be genuine about it, and not transparently desperate like McCain.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Perhaps… But maybe because if Obama did say it first that he’s much more likely to be genuine about it, and not transparently desperate like McCain.

Very Obama cultish of you.

Originally Posted by fictional obama cult member

My candidate is genuine and doesn't play politics. He's Obama. No matter what he says I know he means it with his whole heart. That other guy is just so transparently desperate that he'll says and do anything....but not Obama.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Very Obama cultish of you.

Not at all. As many others have said, there is much that Obama has said and done that I don't agree with. But I get the impression from many other things he has said and done that he actually wants to do good and make America a better place for its people. (Whether you or I agree on his definition of "good" and “a better America” is entirely another matter.) Everything I see from the McCain camp leads me to believe he only wants what’s good for him and the lobbyists who he’s beholden to.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I may just not have read it, but has anyone even expressed concern or given a comment to you Obama is just as in the back pockets of the banks as anyone else treatise?

Actually that's not true. I'm an ardent Obama supporter but I do NOT support all of his stances on issues. I was rather aghast that he voted *for* FISA, for one. I'm grudgingly accepting a lot of his issues. I've traditionally been a single-issue voter (illegal immigration--a very typical conservative view and one that pits me completely in polar opposites with my otherwise libertarian conservative views--because as a legal immigrant I find line-cutters to be despicable and a personal affront to me). I not only voted for Bush in 2000, I voted for Tom Tancredo for 2004 (there you have it, I never said this publically before)--yeah he was not on the ballot. I was so pissed I wrote his name in.

So as you can imagine, I'm not particularly keen on Obama's views on immigration. Well, I'm not humongously supportive of McCain's, either.

Here's the thing. The reason I'm a supporter of Obama is because he is the right man for the right time. The depth and breadth of how much the Bush administration has ruined things in our country is almost unfathomable.

You know when I voted for Bush in 2000, it was because I didn't want to vote for Gore because to me Gore was Clinton 2.0 and I hated that Clinton didn't respect the office enough to keep his pants zipped there. And my thinking was, "Well, we need a change. How much harm can one person do?" Boy was I wrong.

I don't want a card-carrying AARP/qualify for Social Security/frail from torturous injuries senior citizen in the White House, with a barracuda teeth-bearing "young Earth man-walked-with-the-dinosaurs" Christianist fundie rubbing her hands in anticipation on the side. What a joke.

How in the WORLD can such an administration try to right the keel on our broken ship? Do people even KNOW how ridiculed we are around the world? This blind nationalism is KILLING US.