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Old 09-25-2008, 02:09 AM   #911
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Again, the snark in me thinks McCain wants some debate practice time! 3894 beat me to it, great minds think alike?
There is a college instructor on a list I'm on, and she said, "Every semester, someone's grandma always dies right before the midterms."

Someone else said, "I can't do the debate because my dog ate my homework!"

The problem is that McCain isn't actually *ON* any of the committees that are working on this bill. He can't actually DO anything. And because he's got this reputation as a maverick, he doesn't actually have a whole lot of friends in Congress... so it's not like he can go there and shore up a lot of support for whatever idea he's got.

I (of course) thought Obama's response was great. That he's been talking to Paulson everyday and keeping up with stuff (Chris Dodd told Rachel Maddow on her TV show that he's been speaking with Obama everyday and hadn't heard from McCain at all until he heard about the announcement on Wednesday--and Dodd is the CHAIR of the committee working on this).

And basically, Obama said this is EXACTLY the time when Americans should be hearing from the candidates to find out exactly how they feel about all this and what they plan to do when they get saddled with this mess in January.

Oh... and that a president should be able to multi-task and do more than one thing at a time. That was some pwnage action.

David Letterman was REALLY pissed off at McCain for ditching him... especially when Letterman found out that McCain was NOT "going back to Washington to deal with the crisis and that's why he couldn't go on the show" but in fact, Letterman got ditched for an interview with Katie Couric! Yikes!!!

So what did Letterman do? As a pinch hitter interviewee he invited KEITH OLBERMANN. Hahahahaha awesomeness.

They were talking about what would happen on Friday if McCain didn't show up... Letterman said McCain should let his VP nom step forward and pinch hit. I completely agree. I take it one step further--since McCain hinted at postponing this debate to have it on the date of the originally scheduled VP debate, I say Friday's debate can be Biden and Palin!! Woot!! After all those foreign dignitaries she met this week she must be really ready now!

I've heard McCain's announcement as a Hail Mary pass but I think most people will see it for what it is: an effort to stall and call a time out.

Cheap. Cheap cheap cheap.

Oh wait, I'm not done. Anyone see Sarah Palin's interview with Katie Couric? Truly cringe-worthy. The woman never answers questions. She just rephrases the questions, or repeats the same answers when Katie tries to probe further. What a Stepford automaton!
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:53 AM   #912
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...and if Obama had beat McCain to the punch would any of you have the same level of , um, "outrage"...?

No, instead we would be hearing how McCain is uncaring and Obama is rolling up his sleaves blah, blah, blah...

And I thought I was a hopeless partisan
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:54 AM   #913
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McCain is a douche.
Obama is the douche: the douche we need after eight years of not feeling fresh.

Then McCain counters: Yes, my friends, Obama may be a douche, and douching may feel good and smell nice, but if you think it prevents pregnancy or STDs, you're wrong. My friends, we don't need a douche, we need a great big bag of Evercleanse to scrape the accumulated fecal matter out of the colon that is Washington, and I am that bag.

Then Obama: Ladies and gentlemen, we've just had eight years of a president who thought he was the world's Evercleanse . . .
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...and if Obama had beat McCain to the punch would any of you have the same level of , um, "outrage"...?

No, instead we would be hearing how McCain is uncaring and Obama is rolling up his sleaves blah, blah, blah...
You might be right, but part of the problem is that the two campaigns were preparing to issue a joint statement regarding a bipartisan approach to the issue, and then McCain jumped the gun. I think if Obama had pulled a similar stunt, that would be an instance where I would dub him too clever by half.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:47 AM   #914
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Sorry Sleepy, there's no way I'd support suspending the campaign....and I truly believe that Obama would never say any such thing. The poll Tom linked to bears that out - most people do not support the concept, and I'm one of them.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:08 AM   #915
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Me, too, sleepy. Obama-supporter here who would criticize him roundly for pulling the McCain.


Next...?
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:37 AM   #916
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So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:38 AM   #917
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So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.
Obama is showing up, McCain is a question mark last I read.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:44 AM   #918
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So - now there's no debate Friday night? WT-fizzety-fizz-uck?!!! grumble. McCain is a pussy.
Huh? IS it postponed? I haven't seen anything that says it has been. As a matter of fact, the debate committee has specifically said they're moving forward with it despite McCain's gambit.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:48 AM   #919
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Me, too, sleepy. Obama-supporter here who would criticize him roundly for pulling the McCain.


Next...?

ISm, I happen to believe you because you are not a member of the cult of Obama. There is such a vast number of his supporters though, including most of the news media, that should this have been Obama and he came out and explained why, most would say "wow! what a leader! Putting country first even in the midst of a heated campaign. All the more reason why he is a true Washington outsider putting politics second and exactly why we need this man!"

Obama can do no wrong in their eyes. I may just not have read it, but has anyone even expressed concern or given a comment to you Obama is just as in the back pockets of the banks as anyone else treatise?
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:05 AM   #920
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...and if Obama had beat McCain to the punch would any of you have the same level of , um, "outrage"...?

No, instead we would be hearing how McCain is uncaring and Obama is rolling up his sleaves blah, blah, blah...

And I thought I was a hopeless partisan
But he didn't.

Since you're a hopeless partisan, why don't you defend your candidate and his decisions instead of questioning a response that never occurred over an action that didn't take place?

I'll bet if a progressive posed as many hypotheticals as you, all of his friends would point at him and laugh.
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