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[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I was referring to the ad that the McCain campaign posted this afternoon stating that he won the debate before it even happened.

Oh that....optimistic fellow, that McCain....turns out he was right(in my partisan opinion)

I am basically saying that Palin has already won because the media has conditioned the public to expect a blithering idiot....all she has to do is exceed the publics extremely low expectations and Bam, we have a winner.

Palin has already won because the battle for the lowest expectations, with the help of the mainstream media(whether they mean to or not) has already been fought and won beyond her wildest dreams.

In the episode of Daria that I was referring to earlier, Quinn was on the verge of having to repeat the 9th grade and then all of the sudden writes a paper that is barely ok....but because her teacher didn't expect it to be that good he not only gave her an A+ but decided that Quinn should tutor her sister Daria(a straight A student) whose best subject happens to be writing.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Oh that....optimistic fellow, that McCain....turns out he was right(in my partisan opinion)

Very partisan. Both spoke effectively to those that agree with them. No one won. McCain had took the most initiative and Obama played the best defense. Push meets shove. Hard to believe McCain camp's claim that Obama started a shouting match in their closed meeting with the Pres when McCain was the one running right through the moderators stop signs to try to get the last word in.

[wendybeth]

The media has not portrayed Palin as a 'blithering idiot'- she has done that to herself. The (two?) interviews she has given were softball pitches that she struck out on, and just the fact that they had to dumb down the VP debate structure to accommodate her does not help that perception. There may be nowhere but up for her, but that is hardly due to media manipulation.