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innerSpaceman · 10-07-2008, 11:03 PM

McCain's not one to be counted for dead .... but assuming the conventional wisdom is right and this was his last chance to turn things around by having a major victory ... the fact that he didn't - - means he lost.

I have to wonder why John McCain was so clearly uncomfortable with the format he pushed and pushed for. He even got in a dig about Obama not wanting to participate in Town Hall debates. Yet Obama was poised, comfortable and ultimately presidential. McCain was nervous, testy, petulant and obviously ill-at ease.

And yeah, sorry, but walking around the stage looking like a frail, old, cripple did not do his image any good either.

"That one" did not go over well with many folks, Mr. Cricket. Between that and insinuating the black man who asked a question about the economy had never heard of Fannie May, McCain came off as something of a racist.

Then again, that's the constituancy he has to count on if he wants to win the election at this point.

scaeagles · 10-08-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

McCain's not one to be counted for dead .... but assuming the conventional wisdom is right and this was his last chance to turn things around by having a major victory ... the fact that he didn't - - means he lost.

I probably agree with that, but Zogby has shown a trend moving toward McCain in the last few days. The debate may provide a point in the polls for McCain, and one to two points isn't much in the last 4 weeks.

Certainly Zogby is only one poll, but I believe most have shown a bit of closing over the last week.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-08-2008, 07:27 AM

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I probably agree with that, but Zogby has shown a trend moving toward McCain in the last few days. The debate may provide a point in the polls for McCain, and one to two points isn't much in the last 4 weeks.

Certainly Zogby is only one poll, but I believe most have shown a bit of closing over the last week.

Zogby's pretty much alone in that. Every poll I've been watching has Obama holding or increasing his lead.

scaeagles · 10-08-2008, 08:22 AM

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Zogby's pretty much alone in that. Every poll I've been watching has Obama holding or increasing his lead.

I think CBS showed it shrinking a bit after the VP debate.

But as Alex stated, the electoral map is HUGE for Obama right now. That's all that matters.

3894 · 10-08-2008, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

McCain was nervous, testy, petulant and obviously ill-at ease.

And yeah, sorry, but walking around the stage looking like a frail, old, cripple did not do his image any good either.

Don't forget the shortness of breath at times. Some 72 year-olds have the stamina to be president. John McCain is too old.

10-07-2008, 11:03 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	McCain's not one to be counted for dead .... but assuming the conventional wisdom is right and this was his last chance to turn things around by having a major victory ... the fact that he didn't - - means he lost. I have to wonder why John McCain was so clearly uncomfortable with the format he pushed and pushed for. He even got in a dig about Obama not wanting to participate in Town Hall debates. Yet Obama was poised, comfortable and ultimately presidential. McCain was nervous, testy, petulant and obviously ill-at ease. And yeah, sorry, but walking around the stage looking like a frail, old, cripple did not do his image any good either. "That one" did not go over well with many folks, Mr. Cricket. Between that and insinuating the black man who asked a question about the economy had never heard of Fannie May, McCain came off as something of a racist. Then again, that's the constituancy he has to count on if he wants to win the election at this point.
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