Debates of all ilk

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by CoasterMatt

What a maroon - Does Madman McCain not understand how many years the design/licensing of a nuclear power plant takes?

On this specific point, I think this is the biggest part of McCain's plan....speeding up the process. Right now it is nearly impossible to build one and fast tracking is what McCain is pushing for.

It does not require a different design for each power plant. Of course, there will be variations, but the technology does not have to be reengineered.

For the debate overall....eh, I thought McCain made better points, but he made the points that would more appeal to me. Likewise for Obama supporters and points he made.

Regardless, though, I don't think McCain did anything to change the current circumstances his campaign is in. The polling companies that make their money having accurate result, being Zogby and Rasmussen, have it at 3.8 and 5 respectively. I think there may be a half point move for McCain simply because he did better than he had and perhaps gave a bit more confidence to his doubters. And, yeah, ISM, that's the beauty of lowered expectations I suppose.

I will still not be voting for either.

The only thing left is to see which side has the biggest October surprise come out from some source that they can each distance themselves from having been involved in putting out. I would suspect that since McCain has been around in the public spotlight so much longer that one about Obama has trhe potential to be far more damaging. You know each side has something they are holding until after this last debate.

[Gemini Cricket]

For the first part of the debate, McCain was solid. But then he just kinda went downhill. He sounded condescending at times to Obama. It didn't play well for him.

I liked the way Obama stayed cool all the way through.

I also think that Obama's answer on Roe v Wade was great.

McCain's sighing and some of his looks to Obama were annoying. To put up the mirror, it was annoying with Gore as well.

[scaeagles]

And I remember the first Bush - Kerrey debate when I felt like vomiting because of how aweful Bush was making faces at Kerrey. I mean, good lord, dude, you're the POTUS.

GC, I respect so much that you are using the "mirror" thing....I think the thing that bugs me most is the my party and/or candidate is always right and infallible attitude that seems to be so pervasive in politics.

[Gemini Cricket]

"look" - 11
"my friends" - 1
"fundamental" - 4

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

GC, I respect so much that you are using the "mirror" thing....I think the thing that bugs me most is the my party and/or candidate is always right and infallible attitude that seems to be so pervasive in politics.

I'm going to call it Leo's Mirror.

No, honestly, I'm all for being in someone else's shoes. I try to do it when my temper doesn't get in the way.

But at the same time, I must admit that I get confused when you use it some of the time. When someone brings up an instance where person A messed up and you point out that person B messed up too it doesn't diminish what person A did in the first place.
I don't know if I explained that well. And rereading it, I'm still not sure.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

"look" - 11
"my friends" - 1
"fundamental" - 4

Pretty low counts, really. no one would have passed out during their drinking game at least.

[katiesue]

I just want to see what exactly McCain was busily scribbling on his notepad while giving Obama the one eyebrow raise.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Pretty low counts, really. no one would have passed out during their drinking game at least.

Yes. I guess they caught on.


Another thing I forgot to mention was that neither nailed their closing speech. It left me feeling kinda empty concerning both of them.

[scaeagles]

I think he was drawing a picture of a pony.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I think he was drawing a picture of a pony.

Maybe a donkey?