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innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

He sounds racist? Because he doesn't trust Obama when Obama is redefining what a tax cut even is?

GC already pointed out what you apparently missed, but I'm repeating it because I'm astounded by what a tin ear you seem to have. Apparently, Joe the Plumber's ears are equally tin (or perhaps copper would be more appropriate). In any event, he clearly wasn't ready for the prime time suddenly foisted upon him, and did not take careful consideration to how his words would sound .... or, alternatively, he's an unabashed racist.

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

Joe's an azshat for saying it ... and I'm rather shocked you simply glossed over it, scaeagles, and professed not to understand what was racist about Joe's remarks.

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But, um, comparing Obama to a tap-dancing Sammy Davis, Jr. is a fracking racist remark.

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

innerSpaceman · 10-16-2008, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Yeah, whatdya know? -- all the ones I think of are black. Maybe I betta shut the fvck up so's I don't come off like a RACIST when making personal comparisons to the first black presidential candidate.

You are letting color dictate your speech. Because Sammy was black you think he cannot be compared to Obama. Joe was color blind and just compaired a tap dancing politician to a real tap dancer. So who's the racist here?

3894 · 10-16-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

You are letting color dictate your speech. Because Sammy was black you think he cannot be compared to Obama. Joe was color blind and just compaired a tap dancing politician to a real tap dancer. So who's the racist here?

Joe the Plumbing Contractor. The implication was that Sen. Obama shucks and jives.

Re: the distraction called Joe the Plumbing Contractor. Joe's income over $250,000 would be taxed at 39%, rather than the current 36%. So if Joe the Plumber makes $300,000, his tax bill goes up $1,500. That's $125 a month.

My cell phone bill is more than that. Joe is a Kool-Aid-drinking Republican plant. Old-style Karl Rove politics and so terribly, terribly tired.

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894

Joe the Plumbing Contractor. The implication was that Sen. Obama shucks and jives.

Re: the distraction called Joe the Plumbing Contractor. Joe's income over $250,000 would be taxed at 39%, rather than the current 36%. So if Joe the Plumber makes $300,000, his tax bill goes up $1,500. That's $125 a month.

My cell phone bill is more than that. Joe is a Kool-Aid-drinking Republican plant. Old-style Karl Rove politics and so terribly, terribly tired.

A plant? Oh good grief. He's a real American with real views and real concerns. Extra taxes on any group is going to cause concern within that group or in this case, someone who is working hard to be in that group.

Is it really necessary to vilify anyone that opposes your master plans?

Moonliner · 10-16-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894

Shoot, I was right about Joe the Plumbing Contractor being a Republican plant.

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Is it really necessary to vilify anyone that opposes your master plans?

Scratch that last line of mine. You answered the question before I could even pose it.

3894 · 10-16-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Is it really necessary to vilify anyone that opposes your master plans?

That's pretty much the basic question we're all asking the McCain campaign.

Snowflake · 10-16-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

Gents
Fred Astaire
Gene Kelly
The Nicholas Brothers

Ladies
Ann Miller
Ruby Keeler
Ginger Rogers

Strangler Lewis · 10-16-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

How many famous tap dancers can you name off the top of your head?

Who comes to mind first?

How in the hell is that racist?

First? Obviously the white Australians from "Tap Dogs." Cagney, Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire.

Actually, probably Savion Glover, Gregory Hines and the Nicholas Brothers.

The problem with the Sammy Davis, Jr. comment is that when I think of him tap dancing I think of him as a child performer dancing frantically to please white people. Perhaps not what Joe the Plumber had in mind, but . . . perhaps it is.