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Old 10-23-2008, 12:32 PM   #111
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Lawrence v. Texas would be the most direct precedent. Beyond saying that there was no rational basis for criminalizing gay sex, the majority spoke at some length about the personal nature of the decision of whom to love. It would seem odd to say that the personal decision of whom to love is only respected to the extent that you can't be thrown in jail for it but that it does not extend to the stabilizing institution of marriage.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:28 PM   #112
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But isn't that just preaching to the choir?
Choir members gotta show up on Sunday if anyone's going to hear them sing.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:29 PM   #113
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Lawrence v. Texas would be the most direct precedent. Beyond saying that there was no rational basis for criminalizing gay sex, the majority spoke at some length about the personal nature of the decision of whom to love. It would seem odd to say that the personal decision of whom to love is only respected to the extent that you can't be thrown in jail for it but that it does not extend to the stabilizing institution of marriage.
SL! That was the other court case I was trying to think of, you darling you!
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:19 PM   #114
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1. Lies.
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“On October 20, 2008, I received a certified-mail letter for the Prop 8 campaign requesting I withdraw my support of Equality California (EQCA) and demanding that I donate the same amount of money that I donated to the NO on Prop 8 campaign,” said Jim Abbott, Managing Partner of Abbott & Associates/Abbott Realty Group of San Diego, Calif. “The Prop 8 letter was very threatening if I chose to continue to fully exercise my right to support the NO on Prop 8 campaign.”
“This type of outrageous scare tactic from Prop 8 is intolerable. As a business owner, practicing Catholic, and civic leader who has served on the EQCA board for nearly three years, I believe in equality and rights for all...especially for my employees, 25 percent of whom are LGBT,” Abbott said.
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:23 PM   #115
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My opinion of AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, Abbott and Associates, and California Association of Club Executives has gone up.
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:28 PM   #116
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I am just stunned. I have no words. I WILL spreads this around to everyone, regardless of who I might piss off.

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My opinion of AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, Abbott and Associates, and California Association of Club Executives has gone up.
I can guess why, but por que?

Never mind, I missed one page of the PDF.
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:30 PM   #117
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I am just stunned. I have no words. I WILL spreads this around to everyone, regardless of who I might piss off.

I can guess why, but por que?
There's a PDF of the letter Abbott received, as well as a copy of the list of contributors to Equality Califonia (above).
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:33 PM   #118
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It's an interesting issue, but that could be extortion. He should send the letter to the San Diego D.A. and, when they refuse to look into it, Jerry Brown. He should also, of course, say, fine, publish away.
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Old 10-23-2008, 05:00 PM   #119
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What I really wish I could do is picket the Yes on H8 offices. But then I would have to go to Sacramento and that just isn't worth it.
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Old 10-23-2008, 06:10 PM   #120
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The Yes on 8 people are up and down OSO pkwy and Alicia.
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