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Old 11-06-2008, 06:20 AM   #1
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Well, the lawyer was wrong because Thurgood Marshall wasn't on the Supreme Court that eliminated separate but equal. He litigated those cases.

I don't think it's an ex post facto law any more than the Defense of Marriage Act was. It doesn't punish. More to the point, it tells the government how to act going forward. Jerry Brown has said that he will defend the marriages already enacted, and he will defend the law as well. If he can pull off this trick, then I suppose married gay couples could go to Massachusetts or some other friendly place and not have to get married again to be considered married.

As to black support for Proposition 8, why should we be surprised? Pick your oppressed group. The experience of racism has never automatically caused sweeping empathy for other cultural groups that experienced racism, nor has it caused groups to wake up and challenge the sexism in their own cultures.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:19 AM   #2
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Blacks on the whole seem to be more religious than whites in this country. And why not? God's certainly earned their loyalty, you ask me. And yes, generally speaking, they are over-the-top homophobes. When pressed about the homosexuality thing, they use words like 'faith' and 'sin'.


I've been doing a slow burn on this Prop 8 crap. Thinking about what it means...to the Gay and to the rest of us. And I've reached a conclusion:


Fvck them. Fvck every one that would lift a finger to deny rights. Fvck every white, black, and green "Christian" who insists on bossing me around with their bible. Fvck every single one of them who had their child out in the rain, waving signs at passing motorists. These people wouldn't understand compassion and grace even if they were fvcked in the earhole with their beloved Bible by Jesus Christ himself.

Yeah, fvck them.
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