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Old 11-07-2008, 10:36 AM   #631
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I'm going to the LB protest come hell or high water. I don't know if Chris will be home in time to join us for the first leg, but he may be able to join us later. If anyone wants to meet at my house, my care holds 5 and maybe we can park at John and Bill's and walk down.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:44 AM   #632
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Notice for the SLC protest:

Not since the Stonewall Riots of 1969 in New York have we as a
community really stood up for our rights in a determined way. Our
Pride Parades are an event, not a protest. Our court battles are
fought by few while we watch from the comfort of our living rooms.
Our petitions we sign while shopping online.

Society as a whole underestimates us. They underestimate our size.
They underestimate our determination. They underestimate our
conviction. They underestimate our power. Now is the time that we
need to remind them.

This week the religious activists in California decided to take our
civil rights, which they take for granted, and they put it up for a
majority vote. Even more despicable than voting to take away rights
of a minority is the fact that major religions, especially the Mormon
Church, dedicated, and in some instances mandated, that their members
dedicate time and money to passing this discriminatory cause.
We'll march around Temple Square and the Church Office Building. Let's
show them that we are many, that we are powerful, and that we will not
sit idle as they force their religion into our lives and into national
politics.

Please show up with your posters, flags and banners (and dress
warmly!) Will meet on State Street and North Temple. Bring your
friends and your relatives.

Pass this message along to EVERYONE you know who has any respect for
the rights of other people. Let's show the Church that we've had
enough of their political influence in our lifes!
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:46 AM   #633
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Parking is a problem, but there are neighborhoods that you may be able to find parking in. Be prepared to walk. You might have luck parking at Cherry Park which is between Broadway and Ocean (E/W) and Junipero and Cherry ((E/W). There are no lots downtown, but there are many on 2nd street and you can take a bus from there.

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FRIDAY NIGHT - 7pm Intersection of Broadway and Redondo (near the Library CoffeeHouse) in Belmont Heights. We need a large amount of people to completely blocks the intersection and start marching down Broadway to completely CLOSE DOWN the street. Contact your list, email, text, telephone, etc...let each other know WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS INJUSTICE! Find parking ahead of time either down the route, or in the neighborhoods that stage starts in. I recommend the Broadway bus Route 111/112 if you're starting with us, The little Red bus down Ocean and off at Redondo, then walk three blocks north.

FRIDAY NIGHT (Second Stage) - 7:30-7:45pm Intersection of Broadway and Junipero in Bluff Heights. Come join us and walk with us to the next rallying point. Show your peers that they need to join in on the struggle for EQUAL RIGHTS. We will continue to March down Broadway and pull people from the bars to march with us. We will encourage people shopping and dining to join us in our statement to the State of California that THIS IS WRONG! Again, parking will be tight, so arrive EARLY. The park is a great spot to ditch the car while you walk. The OCean little red bus works too, as does the 4th Street bus.

FRIDAY NIGHT (Third and Final Stage) - 8:15 - 8:30pm Intersection of Broadway and Alamitos in Bluff Heights (near Hamburger Marys) We will start the last leg of our march to PIne Ave and down to Ocean Blvd. WE WILL BE HEARD TOMORROW NIGHT. Bring signs, candles, comfortable shoes to march in. Encourage friends and family, gay and straight alike to join us. WE NEED TO MAKE A POWERFUL PRESENCE tomorrow night. All bus routes apply here. Parking IS a bear downtown, but we're on a mission....find a way!
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:57 AM   #634
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I'll be lucky if I can make to the final stage portion. I hope to find some reasonable parking near there ... and hey, I could ferry 3 people back to the starting line in my car!


Oh and I'm just warning .... Widespread Liberal West L.A. support has evaporated (at least for this morning) after the protests DEMOLISHED rush hour traffic yesterday, causing commute times to extend from an average normal 30 minutes to over two hours.

People in L.A. do not like to be fvcked with where they live ... i.e., in their cars. And since most people in West L.A. support the cause, they resent being targeted.


I thought it was a pretty stupid thing to do, too. It was great when the Mormon Temple was targeted. Motorists were overwhelmingly supportive. That changed when the populace of West L.A. was targeted.

I don't know that will translate into people negating their own progressive views on civil rights, but it's not a strategy that's going to win over any new friends.



On a personal level ... the start of the Mormon protest was a fantastic, positive affair and channeled my anger into a wonderful ecstacy. I understand that people are pissed, but I don't think our anger needs to be channeled into more anger.

I know that's not a good thing for me, at least ... so I hope tonight's shindig is peaceful and not too disruptive.


I'm looking forward to tomorrow morning's early thing at the Mormon Temple, with really no potential to disrupt non-existent traffic ... and putting the target of protest back where it belongs.


The LDS's protestations of being targeted for intimidation are falling on my deaf and laughing ears ... and they are the ones unfortunately stoking my own very deep anger.
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I'm playing a tiny violin for the people of West LA.

Get over it.
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Petition to Re-Open Prop 8.

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I'm playing a tiny violin for the people of West LA.

Get over it.
Pretty much what I've been telling people all morning ... and yet I still don't understand the strategy of pissing people off who are your supporters.
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Pretty much what I've been telling people all morning ... and yet I still don't understand the strategy of pissing people off who are your supporters.
Because if you're not pissing someone off the media will pretty much ignore you?
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