A Prop 8 challenge for swankers

[Not Afraid]

Bingo!

[BarTopDancer]

I don't think it's a good idea to piss off supporters. Shut down traffic on a weekend, during non rush-hour times. People of LA should be aware of how much people of LA hate traffic.

But it's done. Hopefully the groups can organize and create large and organized demonstrations that gain support, not alienate its supporters.

I'm hoping to make some of the protests this weekend.

ETA - Brad does have a good point.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Pretty much what I've been telling people all morning ... and yet I still don't understand the strategy of pissing people off who are your supporters.

Yeah. Me neither. Perhaps it's just blind rage.

[Alex]

No argument from me on the content in that petition. But for the life of me I can't figure out what it is asking Schwarzenegger to do. The only call to action I see is "please read this." Which is fine (thought not exactly much of a petition) but didn't Schwarzenegger already oppose 8?

[innerSpaceman]

Not washing with me either. (Not the Arnold petition, though that's also absurd).



There was tons of media at the peaceful part of the protest, and every image I've seen in every newspaper and online was taken then (of course, it being daylight, the pictures were prettier and were more able to capture the Mormon Temple in the background).

Granted, the ongoing protest with street closures into the night got a lot of the continuing and LIVE Coverage!! ... and it sure was noticed.


It was not noticed in a good way. Even the news coverage was Pissed Off Fags. I don't see how that is helpful.



I was really inspired by the photos someone posted in one of these threads of the massive civil rights rallys in Washington D.C. in the 60's. It was the numbers that mattered. They did not stop all activity in the nation's capital. They got noticed by massing and protesting. And that notice was positive. Shut down the city and the notice turns negative.



I understand there's a lot of disagreement and I'm shouting in the wilderness on this one. When a mob gets together, the peaceful route is not most likely.


But I saw it yesterday. A peaceful protest became a mob before my very eyes.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I found this on Craigslist - Saddleback Church on Sunday morning. I did some searching and Rick Warren, the founder of Saddleback, (which is the 4th biggest church in America) told his congregants to vote yes on 8. I also saw this rally posted on a number of sites. Everyone who diggs, give it a digg!

There is also a Huntington Beach Saturday afternoon event on Facebook, though there are only 2 confirmed guests.

I work Saturday, but Sunday morning at a church in OC? That may be irrisistible.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Alex

No argument from me on the content in that petition. But for the life of me I can't figure out what it is asking Schwarzenegger to do. The only call to action I see is "please read this." Which is fine (thought not exactly much of a petition) but didn't Schwarzenegger already oppose 8?

I emailed the governor's office before the election and this is the reply I received:

Thank you for writing Governor Schwarzenegger regarding Proposition 8. The Governor appreciates hearing comments from California residents on issues that affect our state.

California law prohibits the Governor from using state resources to advocate in favor of or opposed to a measure before California voters. However, it is vital that citizens make informed decisions, and your effort to familiarize yourself with the issues we will face on November 4, 2008, is commendable. For more information on the ballot, please visit the Secretary of State's website at www.sos.ca.gov.

Again, thank you for taking the time to write the Governor on this important election. The Governor values the comments of individuals like you who care about the future of our great state.

Sincerely,

Office of Constituent Affairs

[SzczerbiakManiac]

On-line petitions are not worth the paper they're printed on. Seriously, they carry no weight whatsoever.

If you want to sign a petition, sign one that will change the CA Constitution to repeal Prop H8.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I emailed the governor's office before the election and this is the reply I received:

Yeah, he legally couldn't say a position in an email sent from government computers. But he did release his personal position on the propositions and was against Prop 8 (and there were No on 8 commercials at the end quoting him).

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I found this on Craigslist - Saddleback Church on Sunday morning. I did some searching and Rick Warren, the founder of Saddleback, (which is the 4th biggest church in America) told his congregants to vote yes on 8. I also saw this rally posted on a number of sites. Everyone who diggs, give it a digg!

That is the crowd that was by my office and all over South OC.

There is also a Huntington Beach Saturday afternoon event on Facebook, though there are only 2 confirmed guests.

I can't see facebook at work. Can you post the details of HB?

I work Saturday, but Sunday morning at a church in OC? That may be irrisistible.

I'm all over that. I just need details. Stupid firewalls