Prop 8 Protest Information Thread

innerSpaceman · 11-17-2008, 10:43 AM

The sad truth is there is NOTHING to do.

In fact, the protests, demonstrations and rallies ARE what have to continue for the next 6 months in an effort to show public support for a California Supreme Court decision repealing the Prop 8 vote as an illegal revision.

There are only two tracks of action ... and they are indeed the current lawsuits before the California Supreme Court, and another ballot measure for 2010.

There is no direct action that can be taken to speed or influence these two processes. But since the Mormon Culthood will mount a recall effort of any justices who vote to repeal Prop 8, it is vital that public support remain highly visible until they make their decision.

The 100,000+ people who participated nationwide on Saturday is a big help, but it will be the support in California that really matters to our Supreme Court judges.

I'm pinning a lot of my hopes on those court cases, but wiser folks than me insist chances are 50/50 at best.

The other route, the much more involved, much more expensive route is to prepare and wage another ballot measure battle, for November 2010 - two years from now.

It's not like we'd have to wait two years to get started. Rather we should concentrate on public demonstrations for 6 months ... relatively inexpensive and easy ... until the Supreme Court ruling. If that doesn't go our way, it will indeed take 18 months of constant work and millions upon millions of dollars to bring this before the voters again with any chance of winning.

So for us right now, I think the fun thing to do would be to come up with some more creative-type demonstrations that might make the news ... and continue to make the news and involve people for the next 6 months.

And during that time, getting and keeping as many people involved will be paramount ... because if the court ruling goes against us, we will want to try a volunteer-basis signature drive to get the Prop 8 repeal measure on the ballot.

We would need one million signatures ... and identifying and marshalling those one million people before the start of the 150-day signature gathering period will not be easy. It's never been done on a volunteer basis in modern California politics. A professional signature gathering effort costs about $3 million in this State.

That would be $3 million less to spend on a campaign that might cost upwards of $30 million.

So I'm not sure what kind of "game plan" Gemini Cricket has in mind. But no one's gonna come down from on high and tell us what to do. We have just as much power to come up with a good idea or plan as anyone else, spread it on the internet, and see if it catches on or not.

I agree Pink Holidays and Days Without Gays may not be enough. But we need six months worth of newsworthy stuff, so every little bit helps.

11-17-2008, 10:43 AM	#11
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	The sad truth is there is NOTHING to do. In fact, the protests, demonstrations and rallies ARE what have to continue for the next 6 months in an effort to show public support for a California Supreme Court decision repealing the Prop 8 vote as an illegal revision. There are only two tracks of action ... and they are indeed the current lawsuits before the California Supreme Court, and another ballot measure for 2010. There is no direct action that can be taken to speed or influence these two processes. But since the Mormon Culthood will mount a recall effort of any justices who vote to repeal Prop 8, it is vital that public support remain highly visible until they make their decision. The 100,000+ people who participated nationwide on Saturday is a big help, but it will be the support in California that really matters to our Supreme Court judges. I'm pinning a lot of my hopes on those court cases, but wiser folks than me insist chances are 50/50 at best. The other route, the much more involved, much more expensive route is to prepare and wage another ballot measure battle, for November 2010 - two years from now. It's not like we'd have to wait two years to get started. Rather we should concentrate on public demonstrations for 6 months ... relatively inexpensive and easy ... until the Supreme Court ruling. If that doesn't go our way, it will indeed take 18 months of constant work and millions upon millions of dollars to bring this before the voters again with any chance of winning. So for us right now, I think the fun thing to do would be to come up with some more creative-type demonstrations that might make the news ... and continue to make the news and involve people for the next 6 months. And during that time, getting and keeping as many people involved will be paramount ... because if the court ruling goes against us, we will want to try a volunteer-basis signature drive to get the Prop 8 repeal measure on the ballot. We would need one million signatures ... and identifying and marshalling those one million people before the start of the 150-day signature gathering period will not be easy. It's never been done on a volunteer basis in modern California politics. A professional signature gathering effort costs about $3 million in this State. That would be $3 million less to spend on a campaign that might cost upwards of $30 million. So I'm not sure what kind of "game plan" Gemini Cricket has in mind. But no one's gonna come down from on high and tell us what to do. We have just as much power to come up with a good idea or plan as anyone else, spread it on the internet, and see if it catches on or not. I agree Pink Holidays and Days Without Gays may not be enough. But we need six months worth of newsworthy stuff, so every little bit helps.
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