The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Alex]

No, even when corrected for income the disparity continues. It is generally attributed to the fact that conservatives are much more likely to belong to churches which are frequently very involved in charitable endeavors and soliciting their members.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Alex

No, even when corrected for income the disparity continues. It is generally attributed to the fact that conservatives are much more likely to belong to churches which are frequently very involved in charitable endeavors and soliciting their members.

I was just about to post that as my guess. What do I win?

[Alex]

The obligation to tithe your income to me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Hmm, the Church of Alex. There's a mindboggling concept.

[Alex]

I promise to you I'll never lie about the afterlife. Happiness is to be found in this lifetime and is to be achieved by making me rich.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Which I attribute to the fact (well, heheh, my assumed fact) that conservatives are, almost by definition, generally far more wealthy than liberals.

Actually, there are studies that show even when adjusted for income, they still give more(in other words, ask two people who have the same income how much they give to charity and the conservative one, more likely the not, would have given more).....and not just money; they donate more blood, they donate more time volunteering, and they are more likely to give directions to a stranger on the street.


But does any of that matter......even if conservatives were the stingy, heartless sub-humans many try to paint them the fact of the matter is forcing another person to labor for another is slavery.

[Alex]

That is true. But forcing them to give money is not and that is where the analogy fails.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

But does any of that matter......even if conservatives were the stingy, heartless sub-humans many try to paint them the fact of the matter is forcing another person to labor for another is slavery.

Sorry, but you still haven't convinced me that's happening. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. The government says, "We will anyone who helps mow this lady's lawn money for doing so." And people willingly accept that compensation. No one goes to jail if they say no. No one is forced to do anything. People choose to and are compensated. Tada. Failed analogy.

[Alex]

The force here is taking the money (at risk of imprisonment) from person A to pay Person B to provide Service C to Person Q.

It is definitely a form of "violence" by the society against the individual. It just isn't analogous to slavery.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I think that many people that object to tax money going to help the disadvantaged just plain don't give a rat's ass about their fellow humans. They're selfish and self centered.

Do you really believe this?

Just because someone doesn't want the government to do something doesn't mean they don't want it done.

I don't want the Government to build a 3rd gate in Anaheim....but I want it done.

I don't want the Government to produce more episodes of LOST.....but I do want to see more episodes.

I don't want the Government to build interstate high speed rail......but I want it built.

I don't want the Government to cure cancer.......but I want it cured.