Tis the season...deja vu anyone?

[Sir Dillon]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

You know, as an atheist I first thought I had a problem with religion, but I've come to discover my real problem is with dogma - atheist dogma is just as fowl to digest as religious dogma and equally ignorant.

There is no atheist domga...i.e. a doctine presented without proof.

Atheist have nothing but proof (at least far more than religious folk do) to substantiate their viewpoint.

The truly ignorant position is professed by those who believe in religion for the sake of believing without being able to substantiate why they believe.

I have far more respect for those who can argue, defend, and stand on their own justifying their religious belief vs. rationalizaing it through ignorant emotive arguments ascribing negative labels to those who challenge their position (as evidenced by the position taken on the non-religious display side-by-side with the religious display in the Washington State Capitol).

S.D.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Sir Dillon

There is no atheist domga...i.e. a doctine presented without proof.

Atheist have nothing but proof (at least far more than religious folk do) to substantiate their viewpoint.

Heh - the first rule of atheist dogma is there is no atheist dogma

I'm not sure about that - but I don't believe in objective "truth" perhaps you do (though I'd be interested in hearing your basis for it) what do you have to show atheism is "more true" than religion? It's very hard to prove a negative after all

[Sir Dillon]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Heh - the first rule of atheist dogma is there is no atheist dogma

I'm not sure about that - but I don't believe in objective "truth" perhaps you do (though I'd be interested in hearing your basis for it) what do you have to show atheism is "more true" than religion? It's very hard to prove a negative after all

Belief in God is the negative, not absence in that belief.

The so-called "Word of God" declared the earth was 10,000 years old...disproven.

The so-called "Word of God" declared the earth was the center of the universe...disproven.

The so-called "Word of God" declared a lot of things...most (if not all - I'm not allknowing so I cannot declare this as an absolute) have been disproven.

I know this, you know this, and so do many others.

So please...don't be coy or hold back. I can handle a good debate otherwise.

S.D.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Sir Dillon

Belief in God is the negative, not absence in that belief.

The so-called "Word of God" declared the earth was 10,000 years old...disproven.

The so-called "Word of God" declared the earth was the center of the universe...disproven.

The so-called "Word of God" declared a lot of things...most (if not all - I'm not allknowing so I cannot declare this as an absolute) have been disproven.

I know this, you know this, and so do many others.

So please...don't be coy or hold back. I can handle a good debate otherwise.

S.D.

Ok - so if there isn't a God it certainly isn't the "traditional" "Christian" God - but the concept of God is not necessarily limited to that religion (despite it's popularity with Western Culture.)

Most of the truly religious people I know ( and I'm speaking in the spiritual sense) would agree with the above but still hold to a more abstract "higher power." I suspect most of the people on these boards are also not 16th Century Catholics - that is - no one here's argued those points you dispute above.