YES We did!

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

And calling people names is not childish?

You had the high ground until your last sentence.....so close, but you FAIL.

I stand by my adjective, sir. All I've been hearing from conservatives the last few days as been infantile whining and cries of "See? See? Obama made a boo-boo! He's a failure!" The man has been in office less than 36 hours. Give it a rest! You're party lost. Get over it!

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by JWBear

You're party lost. Get over it!

Careful. Those words were what many conservatives uttered when Dubya was re-elected. We might not want to point that out to them... ya know... dishing out the same rhetoric and all.

Liberals were constantly condemned for kicking Bush when he was re-elected. Makes me want to go dig out some of the old posts, but those old board archives simply don't exist, unfortunately. But, if they want to play their own game and put Obama under a microscope, I say let 'em. After all, the poor things are gonna have a looooooong four years, possibly eight. At least it gives them something to be happy about, since they won't be able to applaud futile war efforts and such.

Although, I must admit that when I saw the news clip of Obama signing the Gitmo closure orders, I instantly wondered how many heads were exploding with, "See! See! He just signed our country over to them terrorists!" It's times like these that we need to reach out to our conservative brothers, and supply them with endless tinfoil to make hats. After all, it must be damn hard to see the world feeling a bit less hostile towards us. Because it makes us look weak, ya know.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I stand by my adjective, sir.

I withdraw mine.

All I've been hearing from conservatives the last few days as been infantile whining and cries of "See? See? Obama made a boo-boo! He's a failure!" The man has been in office less than 36 hours.

Wow, how horrible for you. I lasted 8 years.....I am sorry 36 hours is tiring you out

Give it a rest! You're party lost. Get over it!

No!
So?
Why?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Wow, how horrible for you. I lasted 8 years.....I am sorry 36 hours is tiring you out

The difference is that in Bush's first hours in office his every act and utterance were not greeted by cries of "He's going to fail!!! See what a mistake you made?" It took months for the full horror of the Bush Presidency to become apparent.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

The difference is that in Bush's first hours in office his every act and utterance were not greeted by cries of "He's going to fail!!! See what a mistake you made?" It took months for the full horror of the Bush Presidency to become apparent.

1) Pointing out facts regarding the way Obama has thus far conducted himself is hardly saying "he's going to fail"......unless, of course, you equate poor speaking to being a poor leader(surely you don't think a Bush supporter like me thinks poor speaking=poor leader?)

2) Hatred of Bush(and I do mean pure hate) by the media and Dem partisans started well before he even took the oath of office(something he got right the first time, btw ) By the time Bush was executiving a couple of days I'd say he'd taken more shots than Obama will see within the next several months.....in my totally biased opinion I must admit

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

1) ...unless, of course, you equate poor speaking to being a poor leader...

See, that's where your analogy fails. Obama is anything but a poor speaker.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Obama is anything but a poor speaker.

I agree....if you go back to my op on this subject I said I believed him to be a great speaker and was looking forward to that one aspect of an Obama Presidency; I was merely voicing my disappointment that perhaps he's not as great a speaker as I had originally thought---based on his flubbing the oath and his scores of "ums" during his first executive orders.

Look, I do hope Obama succeeds....when he's acting in our Nations best interests.

I also, will easily admit that I hope he fails.....when he's acting in his own or his parties best interests or just advancing an agenda that goes against my ideals.

I will point out Obama gaffes, mistakes etc when they occur.....not because it happened to Bush, although I will continue to offer up that excuse because the irony does amuse me since I believe Bush went thru a lot of unfair criticisms(my opinion, lets not debate that right now), but mainly because it's just plain FUN. I remember the Clinton years very fondly

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Obama is anything but a poor speaker.

I agree....if you go back to my op on this subject I said I believed him to be a great speaker and was looking forward to that one aspect of an Obama Presidency; I was merely voicing my disappointment that perhaps he's not as great a speaker as I had originally thought---based on his flubbing the oath and his scores of "ums" during his first executive orders.

Look, I do hope Obama succeeds....when he's acting in our Nations best interests.

I also, will easily admit that I hope he fails.....when he's acting in his own or his parties best interests or just advancing an agenda that goes against my ideals.

I will point out Obama gaffes, mistakes etc when they occur.....not because it happened to Bush, although I will continue to offer up that excuse because the irony does amuse me since I believe Bush went thru a lot of unfair criticisms(my opinion, lets not debate that right now), but mainly because it's just plain FUN, I remember the Clinton years very fondly

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Hatred of Bush(and I do mean pure hate) by the media and Dem partisans started well before he even took the oath of office

I must point out that I hated Bush long before he even ran for president. His record as executioner, er, governor of Texas cinched that opinion for me.

Nothing prepared me for for his reign of terror as President though. But pre-inaugural disdain for W. is not without reason.

Similarly, it's legitimate if anyone wants to hate Obama for his record as Illinois senator. Go ahead. Knock yourself out. How many people did he kill?

[bewitched]

Freakin' lefties...

Instead of special quality left-handed scissors why don't you just learn to use quality right-handed scissors like the rest of us. Stop trying to ruin my quality scissors by demanding not only "left-handed scissors" but quality left-handed scissors. Why should lefties get special treatment?