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Old 01-14-2005, 03:24 PM   #1
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It was clear that the actor's weren't actually singing to the track, that always looks bad, the breathing is wrong.
Characters in impossible physical situations singing away with no extra effort also strained credulity. Look, he's tied to a metal gate and has a noose around his neck, which is being yanked around, and he's singing! What talent.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:06 PM   #2
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Look, he's tied to a metal gate and has a noose around his neck, which is being yanked around, and he's singing! What talent.
Hahahha I laughed so hard at that part..

Raoul (with noose around neck): *GAG**GAG*GAG**ACK*I FOUGHT SO HARD TO FREE YOU! *GAG*

it came off a bit silly.

My problems with the movie stemmed from the Phantom not having the upper hand at all points prior to the very ending (i.e. that swordfight scene?). He was *way* more menacing in the stage version. Also, the Phantom's appearance should have been much more grotesque. I mean, come on, the Phantom was HOT. I would have bent over for the Phantom long before the admittedly cute (yet brainless) Raoul. Also I agree that the Phantom's reaction should only have been at the END of the "All I Ask of You" sequence.

However, I generally enjoyed the movie. It didn't transcend the play in any way, but it was still enjoyable because I liked the stage version.

Most of the negative reviews of the film I read had to do with the insipid lyrics and repetitive music. Well, DUH. But the music/lyrics are what they are. If you didn't like the play, then the movie isn't going to redeem Phantom.

Also, with a note to the pre-recorded singing/lip sync/"they aren't breathing correctly!" stuff -- all musical films have pre-recorded soundtracks. Very VERY few performers actually sing the music along with the track (Judy Garland is actually the only performer I can think of that did that), and so it's never going to look perfect on screen....
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:12 PM   #3
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Also, with a note to the pre-recorded singing/lip sync/"they aren't breathing correctly!" stuff -- all musical films have pre-recorded soundtracks. Very VERY few performers actually sing the music along with the track (Judy Garland is actually the only performer I can think of that did that), and so it's never going to look perfect on screen....
See, I read that - at least with Think of Me - it was recorded live. What we see in the movie was the actual filming they did. I wasn't sure if that applies to any more of the film, though.

Rex Harrison did it for My Fair Lady. Granted, he did that sort of speak-sing thing.

Some things I liked, with regards to the lyrics, was opting to make certain passages speaking. There wasn't a lot of dialogue in the play, and I liked "Come, those two fools....." being spoken, as well as some of the Raoul/Christine stuff that I always thought was silly being sung.
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See, I read that - at least with Think of Me - it was recorded live. What we see in the movie was the actual filming they did. I wasn't sure if that applies to any more of the film, though.

Rex Harrison did it for My Fair Lady. Granted, he did that sort of speak-sing thing.

Some things I liked, with regards to the lyrics, was opting to make certain passages speaking. There wasn't a lot of dialogue in the play, and I liked "Come, those two fools....." being spoken, as well as some of the Raoul/Christine stuff that I always thought was silly being sung.
LOL I dunno about the Think of Me sequence... actually that was one sequence that I thought she was "off"... also because of numerous takes/angles/extra noise, it seems odd that they would want to film any singing live since it would require lots of unnecessary work

I felt the opposite about the speaking lines in the movie versus singing lines in the play. But that's prolly cuz I have the whole damn play memorized, and so hearing singing words spoken was slightly jarring.
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