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Old 02-23-2009, 04:04 PM   #11
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Im game, but it should start from san diego, not LA.

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Old 02-23-2009, 04:04 PM   #12
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:10 PM   #13
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Building efficient high speed trains will take the steam out of research into teleportation technology.

Therefore I can not support it.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:11 PM   #14
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The Vegas version of "sin" doesn't intrest me all that much. I'd rather see a high-speed train from LA to San Francisco.
Hear hear!
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:11 PM   #15
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I don't think I'd trust any teleportation technology that relied on steam anyway, so I'm okay with that.
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:21 PM   #16
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SciFi writer Larry Niven wrote a series of short stories (in the 80’s IIRC) about a future where cheap, reliable teleportation is commonplace. His predictions of how it would change our culture are very interesting (“flash mobs” anyone?).
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:52 PM   #17
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It's the same faulty logic used by the people who say, "Why should I, as someone who's owned their home without getting myself a bad mortgage that I can't afford, pay for the mistakes of people who made bad decisions on their homes."

Umm, gee, maybe because if we take a few billion dollars (which, divided across all tax payers, is MAYBE $1000/person) and spend it correctly, the value of YOUR home won't continue to drop by tens of thousands of dollars. The city and state YOU live in will be able to continue collecting property taxes from more people instead of losing it as people forclose, forcing them to raise YOUR property taxes. People can afford to both live in their homes and purchase things, stemming the recession and possibly preserving YOUR jobs.

I'm not saying there's a gurantee that's going to happen, but geebus the "I shouldn't have to pay for their mistakes," is such a blind, infantile response. As if they live in the vacuum and the bucketloads of foreclosures down the street has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

Sure we'd all have preferred that the idiots didn't put themselves in that situation to begin with, and we'd all prefer to not have to bail them out, but if the price for bailing them out hurts MY bottom line, then yes, I consider it a perfectly reasonable move to invest some tax dollars to salvage the value of my investment.
I hear what you're saying - but at the same time - we didn't buy a home because we couldn't afford it. Not because we couldn't get a loan - but it would have been an ARM. So we continue to rent. Why should I pay for the other person who now gets to keep their home? Yes - I know how it all "trickles down" like happy little pennies jingling their way from the heavens into everyone's homes... And really I don't wish that I would have gone ahead and overpaid for a home with a mortgage that didn't make sense. It just bugs me that if those homeowners get bailed out, I pay for their house which they get to keep and I'm renting.

Would I pay for the sin city train. At least once for the experience of going to Vegas on it. But we don't go to Vegas all that often - or actually at all since my husband quit smoking. (all that casino smoke.) If we head out that direction again it will be for off roading on the way and not for actually going to Vegas.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:08 PM   #18
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Absolutely I'd ride the train to Vegas. I love Vegas, but I despise that drive.
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Old 02-23-2009, 06:18 PM   #19
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I love the drive and I love Vegas (gambling being my only vice).

But if a fast train were available for less than the cost of two tanks of gas (the current fare from the Bay Area and back) I'd probably take it most of the time.
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:36 PM   #20
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I hope to ride the Sin Express tonight when I get home.
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