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Old 03-05-2009, 01:45 PM   #1
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Also, The O6 ended up in 1977 with Saywer (excuse me... "LaFleur") et al. Ben and Locke did not. Interesting.
Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp. Seems to me the New Plane and Locke are there in 1977, same as the O6, just on the beach side of the island (which we know is far from the Dharma compound).
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Old 03-05-2009, 02:29 PM   #2
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Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp. Seems to me the New Plane and Locke are there in 1977, same as the O6, just on the beach side of the island (which we know is far from the Dharma compound).
Locke, Ben, and the rest of the flight 316 are at the Hydra station – the same station Jack was being held at by the Others, and where he operated on Ben. In 1977, this station was (relatively) brand new, and was still fully staffed by DI (and polar bears!). In the scenes with the 316ers, it has obviously been abandoned and looks even more rundown than when the Others were using it. Ergo, the 316ers landed on the Island in “current” time – late 2007/early 2008.
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Ergo, the 316ers landed on the Island in “current” time – late 2007/early 2008.
If Locke was in "current time" when he was in NYC, it wasn't late 2007/early 2008. NY got rid of the Statue of Liberty license plates in 2001.
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If Locke was in "current time" when he was in NYC, it wasn't late 2007/early 2008. NY got rid of the Statue of Liberty license plates in 2001.
Then that was an editorial mistake/decision because that is the correct timeline as presented (crashed in '05, 3 years passed).
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Wait, when we see Locke with the New Plane people, they are on the beach, with the canoes. I'm totally lost as to when we saw the canoes there before, timewise, but it's definitely not post-Losties camp.
It was in the episode when Sawyer saw Kate and Claire when Claire was giving birth. Remember, they walked back to beach and it was all wrecked and there were a couple of canoes with an Ajira Airways water bottle. They took the canoes part of the way to the Orchid station and got shot at from another canoe.

Looking on IMDB, it was the 4th episode this season, "The Little Prince"

eta: Since it was when they were still time jumping, it was a post Losties camp, we just didn't know (at the time) that it was the Ajira camp...we just assumed it was the Oceanic camp that had been trashed (or at least I did). And personally, I think Locke (and Ben) are current time, as is the Ajira camp.
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Old 03-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #6
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A review I just read got me thinking (it was about how various seasons seem to be the yin/yang of each other)...and I may be on a totally wrong path...but does Milton's Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained resonate with anyone else? I don't want to really flesh out my thoughts yet since neither book is fresh enough in my mind.

Synopsis:

Here.

And here.
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