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Old 03-19-2009, 09:50 AM   #311
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:14 AM   #312
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Hahaha, I've just figured out where I know Caesar from. He's in I [heart] Huckabees, as the translator for the old lady singing about olive trees. Hahaha. I also remember his role in Three Kings, but Huckabees is definitely why he's familiar.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:22 AM   #313
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I'm scratching my head as to why Sun didn't warp back to 1977. What was different about her?
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Hmm, she's the only other one who saw Widmore in person, isn't she....
No, Lapidus, Ben, and Locke have all met Widmore..........oh, snap, they're with Sun Nice catch maybe

Nevertheless, I am thinking Sun having had a baby may have more to do with it than meeting Widmore.

Or it could just be a simple matter of the Island sending people where they need to be to obtain a desired outcome.....
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:34 AM   #314
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No, Lapidus, Ben, and Locke have all met Widmore..........oh, snap, they're with Sun Nice catch maybe
Precisely, thus my use of "other".
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I thought of that, but I'm still trying to think more in terms of what the ones who stayed with the plane had in common, and I'm pretty sure Locke didn't have a baby.

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Could be, but even if it turns out to be someone/thing making stuff happen, I continue to hope for a more satisfying conclusion that provides some clues as to the mechanics behind it all, rather then some omniscience/omnipotence.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:34 AM   #315
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Or it could just be a simple matter of the Island sending people where they need to be to obtain a desired outcome.....
That's what it looks like to me. Their encounter with Christian makes it seem like they have a job to do. (Paraphrased: "You've got quite a journey ahead of you.") Are they going to somehow rescue the "Neithers"* from 1977?

*Neithers - the name my son gave to the group of Losties stuck in 1977. They're not Dharma, they're not Others, they're Neithers.
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Old 03-19-2009, 11:39 AM   #316
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Another theory(not mine, I read it on another board) I like is based on the orchid orientation video with the rabbits: In that video Dr Candle/Chang/Hallowax freaked out when a second rabbit, identical to the one he was holding, appeared. It was more than just a "oh no, now my video is ruined" type freak out.....more like a "oh no, the world will end if they touch each other" kind of fit.

So, we know that Ben is already at Dharmaville circa 1977.........could Sun be there? We know that Widmore(an other/hostile) did have business dealings with Sun's father(could he also be an other/hostile?)
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Old 03-19-2009, 01:11 PM   #317
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If Christian takes them to some lever and says "push this to travel back in time and save your friends" I'll be very annoyed. But...how do you travel back in time on purpose?

That poor kid who plays young Ben. Yeech. Enough with the lipstick.

It's occured to me that Sun gave her baby up to go find Jin, knowing full well she'd probably never be back. That's f'd up. Am I forgetting something there?
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:05 PM   #318
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If Christian takes them to some lever and says "push this to travel back in time and save your friends" I'll be very annoyed. But...how do you travel back in time on purpose?
That scene has been bugging me a little;

1)Why would there be a torn and ragged Dharma sign hanging around in 2007? Ben and the others surely would have took it down back when they killed off Dharma......to me this suggests that something changed in the time line and the others never took over Dharmaville. Although, clearly, Dharma wasn't there so something still happened...I am stumped

2) How did Christian show Sun the picture from 1977?


He used a flashlight........
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:12 PM   #319
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That scene has been bugging me a little;

1)Why would there be a torn and ragged Dharma sign hanging around in 2007? Ben and the others surely would have took it down back when they killed off Dharma......to me this suggests that something changed in the time line and the others never took over Dharmaville. Although, clearly, Dharma wasn't there so something still happened...I am
Don't know if they're in the past or the future, but I'm certain the plane and those who remained on it did travel in time, just not to 1977. Perhaps they are in a period between the purge and when the Others claimed the barracks as their own.

Or perhaps it was just a sloppy creative decision made in case it wasn't obvious where they were.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:26 PM   #320
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Did anyone else notice the black smoke coming in the building when Sun was talking to Christian?

Also, It would appear that Ben has always known who (at least some of) the Losties are.



Nice catch sj, so I guess we know Christian isn't Jacob. I'm still sticking with the Jack is Jacob theory.*









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