Oh God what I geek I am, Goobye all..

[Moonliner]

OK, enough will all the spoiler tags. The movie is out and if you don't want to know, well you know my position on that... So here we go lot's of details without the spoiler tags...


















"The force is strong in my family. I have it, my father has it, and my sister has it", Luke Skywalker. Though completely untrained Leia is "seeing" her mother through the force, just like Anakin and Luke see things. She just has no idea what the visions are and so thinks it's a memory.

Chewbaca MIGHT have heard of one "Obi-Won Kanobie" master and Jedi knight, but some guy named Ben from the back woods (so to speak) of Tatooine? I think not.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Okay, I have to mention this because it was so bad.

Spoiler:

Emperor? Emperor!?

Obi-wan and Yoda return to Corusant and head straight to the Jedi Temple. They have not been to the senate where, at the same time, Palpatine is busy declaring his new Empire. And yet, Obi-wan calls him "Emperor". Twice! In later scenes with Little Orphan Annie, he goes back to calling him Chancellor. That's just...how do you screw that up?

Issue #2: Does this sound familiar to anyone?

LUKE
Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?

LEIA
Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.

Really, like the minute you were born? Man, she was one damned observant newborn if she could remember that her mother "was very beautiful. Kind, but...sad."

Grrrr. That one's particularly irksome because Padme dying is integral to the story of the movie, and yet it completely contradicts that line in Jedi. Leia's mother lives, long enough for Leia to have memory of her.

And on the mildly annoying front...Chewbaca is friends with Yoda, but years later doesn't put a good word in to Han for Obi-wan and instead makes Obi-wan bargain for a ride? I swear, Lucas just didn't think these things through, he was too busy pandering to people. "I wanna see Chewbaca, I wanna see Chewbaca!" These movies would have been so much better if he hadn't forced these stupid little tie-ins that were so unnecessary.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

Chewbaca MIGHT have heard of one "Obi-Won Kanobie" master and Jedi knight, but some guy named Ben from the back woods (so to speak) of Tatooine? I think not.

The way I see it, it's too ambiguous, and completely avoidable by simply removing one throw-away line from the movie. But he couldn't resist the urge to pander (and the fans who eat up that kind of pandering with a spoon share some responsibility). Totally unnecessary and just another in a long list of pointless feel-good tie ins that raise too many cointinuity questions.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The way I see it, it's too ambiguous, and completely avoidable by simply removing one throw-away line from the movie. But he couldn't resist the urge to pander (and the fans who eat up that kind of pandering with a spoon share some responsibility). Totally unnecessary and just another in a long list of pointless feel-good tie ins that raise too many cointinuity questions.

So your issue is really with having Chewie in the movie at all, or for that matter any of the wookies given the totally non-involved way it was done.

I'm with you on that. All the wookie scenes just seemed out of place and forced. They should have been pivotal to the plot or Chewie should have had a cameo as a senator or some such.