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Old 05-20-2005, 09:23 AM   #1
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Actually, the one that bugged me the most was when Yoda told Obi-Wan that he had learned to commune with Qui-gon. Well, if that's the case, why doesn't qui-gon ever appear with Yoda and Obi-wan later in Jedi? If it has to be learned, how does Anakin do it right after his death in Jedi? Anyway.....
Oh, that's an easy one. You only get the ghost thing if you die in front of Luke. That's actully the ultimate goal of Jedi training, to die in front of Luke. Just look at Obi-wan. Happily trading blows with Vader until, "Oh good, Luke's here, I get to die in front of him and get the cool ghost body!" and he puts away his saber.

Agreed about the Padme/Annie scenes. Nothing good about them.

And agreed about Jedi dying too easily. Why was Yoda the only one who sensed the ambush? The ones they showed getting ambushed were all masters and all on the council, there were powerful Jedi. And a couple freaking Storm Troopers got them from behind? Storm Troopers!!!! Lame.

Chewbacca sees Obi-Wan training Luke on the Falcon, he KNOWS he's a Jedi, and Chewie didn't even give a, "Hey, do you know what happened to that Yoda dude?" Lame.

Oh, and freaking midichlorians! I thought we were done with those. Grrr.
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Old 05-20-2005, 09:37 AM   #2
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Oh, that's an easy one. You only get the ghost thing if you die in front of Luke. That's actully the ultimate goal of Jedi training, to die in front of Luke. Just look at Obi-wan. Happily trading blows with Vader until, "Oh good, Luke's here, I get to die in front of him and get the cool ghost body!" and he puts away his saber.

Obi-Won was in no shape to face Vader and he knew it. As soon as he felt Vaders presence he admitted defeat to himself. His goal was to get Luke off the Death Star. All he had to do was keep Vadar talking long enough to distract everyone and let Luke get on the ship. But dumbass farm boy decides to take on the entire imperial army in an attempt to save Ben. Ben then gives up the fight so that Luke will run away. After all if you give an entire room full of stormtroops enough time eventually even they will be able to hit something the size of a person.

In Sith, we learn that Obi-Won has spent the last 20 years or so studying how to be a ghost. That's why he is able to go from corporal to ghost on the spot and talk to Luke seconds later. All the rest of the Jedi at least left a body behind.
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Old 05-20-2005, 10:06 AM   #3
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In Sith, we learn that Obi-Won has spent the last 20 years or so studying how to be a ghost.
Does this have to do with Qui-Gon figuring out the ghost thing? In any case, I don't think I buy it.

I was annoyed we didn't get to see Qui-Gon as a ghost. I can almost hear Yoda telling Obi-Wan, "Wait for the DVD release, you must." They must have shot that, right?

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I think he said it as soon as he figured it out. Based her on comments like "I cannot believe that". With stress on the word "cannot"
See, but this is lame. Anakin is supposed to be practically glowing with the Force - shouldn't his children be obvious to any Jedi Master? Never mind that his feelings are so focused on her. It's more "The dark side clouds everything" BS. Look, either you feel things with the Force, or you don't!

I'm with GD on the Leia line in Jedi. For God's sake, those movies exist, he should have watched them again before writing these.

All the continuity problems are avoidable and unnecessary!
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