The Jazz Kitchen Bill Cluster Fornication

[Betty]

I generally double the tax when I tip if the service has been acceptable. I have no issues tipping less for crappy service or tipping more for great service. In fact, we visit the pancake house in corona nearly every weekend for sat. breakfast and always tip well because the service is (usually) better then everywhere else.

What annoys me is when I'm "expected" to tip a certain percentage no matter how lousy the service was. Just because you're in a large group does not mean the service is acceptable...

... but I wasn't there and have no business in this thread. Right?

And frankly, I don't tip for other stuff - such as the mailman at Christmas.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

Is the servers job harder at a more expensive restaurant than a TGI Friday's or Denny's?

That's a valid question and the answer is a resounding YES! While it's not harder to carry a plate of $50 food vs. a plate of $5 food, the service expectations of the guests paying for the former are far higher. I can tell you from experience, the more people pay for their food the pickier and more assholish they tend to be*.

Originally Posted by Betty

What annoys me is when I'm "expected" to tip a certain percentage no matter how lousy the service was. Just because you're in a large group does not mean the service is acceptable...

That is absolutely true. But if the service was that bad, you should be speaking to the manager. This is not to "tattle" on the server, it's so the restaurant can improve. I worked in the food service industry for 20 years so please trust me when I say the management wants to know these things. If they don't, they won't be a restaurant manager for long.

Originally Posted by Betty

And frankly, I don't tip for other stuff - such as the mailman at Christmas.

I don't either. Isn't that more of an East Coast thing? (serious question) I don't know anybody in CA who has even done that here.



*This does not apply to anyone reading LoT.

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

I don't either. Isn't that more of an East Coast thing? (serious question) I don't know anybody in CA who has even done that here.

Well, they used to, at least in Sunnyvale. My dad was a mail carrier for 20 years and he came home with oodles of things over Xmas. Envelopes with $$, box after box of Sees candy, bottles of wine and champagne, homemade cookies, pickles, you name it. He probably carried home more in loot than he dropped off in the mail delivery.

Today, I do not tip the mail carrier simply because we do not have a regular carrier, it can change from week to week. It's not an easy job in a lot of respects, but US mail service is nothing like it was when my dad was a mail carrier.