Star Trek

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by RStar

Elphaba from Wicked decided to join Star Fleet rather than become a witch.

Bwahahahahah!

(Now I have "So if you care to find me... look to the Vulcan sky!" stuck in my head...)

[blueerica]

Ahh - yes. I like hearing peoples' points, but there inevitably comes a point where my brain starts screaming "come on!". Like someone is hitting middle C over, and over, and over again.

Or perhaps my making the 'this is pointless' statement is a bit like Godwin's Law.

[Pirate Bill]

So, why was Winona Rider cast as Amanda? It didn't make a whole lot of sense to cast someone young just to make them up to look old. Was there going to be a scene with young Amanda that got cut? Or did I blink and miss it?

[swanie]

Originally Posted by Pirate Bill

So, why was Winona Rider cast as Amanda? It didn't make a whole lot of sense to cast someone young just to make them up to look old. Was there going to be a scene with young Amanda that got cut? Or did I blink and miss it?

I read an interview with Zachary Quinto that said...

Q: Winona Ryder plays Spock's mother. Was it strange having someone so young playing your mom?

A: She's, like, six years older than me or something. ... In the original screenplay, Amanda is seen giving birth to Spock, and in the movie you just see her when she's older. She did some amazing work.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ok, more substantively ... Alex, what don't you like about Urban's take on Bones McCoy? Most people seem to love his characterization. I'm in that crowd. What's wrong with you?

Two things, one his fault and one not so much his fault.

1. I thought he was trying too hard to to an impression of DeForest Kelley. And, in my opinion, he didn't do a good one. I think I said this earlier but to me it sounded like he was doing an impression of DeForest Kelley doing an impression of Jack Nicholson. It just grated on me.

2. I really didn't like the slapstick involved in getting Kirk on the enterprise so since he was central to that I'm sure he was tainted and then not given enough additional work in the rest of the movie to overcome it. The one big spotlight moment being just so he could toss out a cliched (not one of those pieces of Star Trek tradition that I like) "Dammit <name>, I'm a ... not a ..." line. Especially since he said "Dammit <name>, I'm a doctor not a physicist" and then immediately followed it up with an exact understanding and restatement of the implications of the physics mumbo jumbo he was responding to.

Maybe he'll grow on me in the next movie if given more to do.

[Strangler Lewis]

I haven't seen it, but I assume that if he did, in fact, follow up his stock line with a physics lecture, it was supposed to be funny.

By the way, is it my imagination, or are all the rectangles on this site newly outlined in bold?

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, I guess I thought his "impersonation" was a necessary adjunct to being curmudgeonly. (I have some experience at this, and often inadvertenly sound like McCoy myself). At least he never did the Southern accent.


On the other hand, the extended slapstick bit of getting Kirk on board the enterprise and annoyingly jabbing him in the neck with a new batch of cure every 3 minutes was my favorite thing in the entire movie.

I don't usually care for slapstick, but this struck me as quintessentialy Star Trek. (The Augustous Gloup slapstick bit did not, and so I was pretty 'meh' on that.)

Now I'm pretty familiar with Star Trek, but the episodes tend to merge together in my memory ... so I can't tell you categorically if there was an episode or episodes where McCoy did this to Kirk, I simply get the impression its a brilliant synthesis of their working relationship.

[Alex]

I probably could have gone with it up until the bloated cartoon hands and hammy Disney channel acting that accompanied it. I'm guess I was fine with the idea but I think they overplayed it a bit.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Hmmm, I guess I thought his "impersonation" was a necessary adjunct to being curmudgeonly. (I have some experience at this, and often inadvertenly sound like McCoy myself). At least he never did the Southern accent.


On the other hand, the extended slapstick bit of getting Kirk on board the enterprise and annoyingly jabbing him in the neck with a new batch of cure every 3 minutes was my favorite thing in the entire movie.

I don't usually care for slapstick, but this struck me as quintessentialy Star Trek. (The Augustous Gloup slapstick bit did not, and so I was pretty 'meh' on that.)

Now I'm pretty familiar with Star Trek, but the episodes tend to merge together in my memory ... so I can't tell you categorically if there was an episode or episodes where McCoy did this to Kirk, I simply get the impression its a brilliant synthesis of their working relationship.

Repost, because I agree with everything you said. What's even more amazing than the movie itself is that I agree with pretty much everything iSm has said in this entire thread. It's amazing!

Originally Posted by Alex

I probably could have gone with it up until the bloated cartoon hands and hammy Disney channel acting that accompanied it. I'm guess I was fine with the idea but I think they overplayed it a bit.

Yeah, a little hammy, but it didn't hurt it for me.

Just so I'm not hitting middle C over and over I'll mention this - the Scotty sidekick thing made me wince. WTF was that? Completely unnecessary, unfunny, pointless. I'm eternally grateful that it didn't make much noise. And yes, Scotty Augustus Gloop, ouch. At least I thought Scotty's dialogue was funny.


My theory is that Spock and Uhura were totally getting it on the whole time in TOS, they just kept it on the down low.

[Pirate Bill]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

My theory is that Spock and Uhura were totally getting it on the whole time in TOS, they just kept it on the down low.

But Nurse Chapel totally had a thing for Spock. Now I'm going to have to go rewatch TOS specifically to see if there's any cattiness between Chapel and Uhura.

BTW, as soon as they showed the Enterprise bridge my only thought was I wanted to see Yeoman Rand.