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Old 05-29-2009, 01:32 PM   #31
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So what happens to the 80 million park visitors?
Errr, the overwhelming percentage of them will go to the parks. They are not shutting down the entire system after all....
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:04 PM   #32
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He wasn't Republican. So, of course he had to be eliminated at any cost.
Republicans carry enough power in CA to force the recall of a governor? Republicans are pretty outnumbered in CA, aren't they?
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:06 PM   #33
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No, perhaps not. Either way though, The economic meltdown is the fault of Republican policy - at both the state and federal level.
I know enough to dispute this at the federal level (I believe it shared responsibility between both parties but that it started with policies made during the Carter years, but that obviously isn't the subject of this thread), but not knowing the CA political structure, have the republicans controlled anything in CA for a while? I suspect they haven't but I don't know, so it's an honest question.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:38 PM   #34
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I fully support the legalization of marijuana, but to say it's harmless because it's natural is ridiculous. Oleander and hemlock are also 100% natural but I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to ingest those.
Whoa! I didn't say it was harmless BECAUSE it's natural. My implication is that it's absurd for man to declare illegal that which grows from the earth. If that puts hemlock in the same bag, so be it. Let's allow that to be legal, and see just how big the market is for hemlock.


Nor did I say it was harmless at all. I said it was LESS harmful than alcohol or tobacco, both drugs that are legal.


I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. We now return to your State Park Potential Crisis thread, already in progress.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:11 PM   #35
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Republicans carry enough power in CA to force the recall of a governor? Republicans are pretty outnumbered in CA, aren't they?
Perhaps. But I was refering to the people who spearheaded the recall, and who did everything they could to demonize Davis because he was a Democrat.

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I know enough to dispute this at the federal level (I believe it shared responsibility between both parties but that it started with policies made during the Carter years, but that obviously isn't the subject of this thread), but not knowing the CA political structure, have the republicans controlled anything in CA for a while? I suspect they haven't but I don't know, so it's an honest question.
Oh please... The Rebublicans got their wet dream of an unregulated market; and now we are all paying the price.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:13 PM   #36
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Don't pretend the Democrats were any less free-market than the Republicans.
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Lately, when it comes to social issues, I'm finding less of a difference between Republicans and Democrats. ie. Lots of the Democrat lawmakers in Hawaii are elephants in donkey costumes.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:28 PM   #38
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Closing the parks is ridiculous, of course, and legalizing pot, I agree, would ease some pain (yes, I fully intend the irony there, and full disclosure dictates that I state that I am now eligible for medicinal marijuana, so take it as you will) but I would like to know why, with such a terrible budgetary mess, California still supplies so much aid to Mexico in the form of health services, education, etc to illegal aliens? Cut off the money to illegals, impose stiff penalties on hiring them, and send them home, and I have no doubt the budget will bounce back further than it will by closing some campgrounds. Why is nobody focusing in on the real problems and real solutions?
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:28 PM   #39
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Want to see some changes? Help with the effort to recall Schwarzenegger.
Bad idea as it will accomplish as much god as the Davis recall did: virtually none.

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Either way though, The economic meltdown is the fault of Republican policy...
What narrow-sighted political bigotry. The Dems are as equally f-ed up as the Reps.
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What narrow-sighted political bigotry. The Dems are as equally f-ed up as the Reps.
Not at all. An unregulated market is a conservative ideal, not a progressive one.
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