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DreadPirateRoberts · 06-15-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Since it is already using suspended ride vehicles I vote for converting Peter Pan to an Up dark ride.

(actually, I don't vote for that, I just like to imagine the howls of outrage if Disneyland actually did it.)

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Morrigoon · 06-15-2009, 03:18 PM

Alex: I like the idea... not as an overlay, but perhaps as a new installation. After all, DCA doesn't have a Peter Pan, and guests freaking love it.

dlrp_bopazot · 06-15-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RStar

I know the Electrical parade made it to other Disney parks, but did it ever show in Paris?

Just wondering.....

yes we had the MSEP from 1992 to 2003 then it has been replaced by Disney's Fantillusion and the fun part is that we took your Pinochio and snow white floats had been added to our Parade in 1997 then now the Parade has been shipped to California and you took the floats back .

Remember Pinnochio and Snow White were missing since 2001 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQHRvkExrKY

May be Morrigoon saw the Parade when she was here in 2001 ?

Morrigoon · 06-15-2009, 03:40 PM

I missed it in 2000 but I did catch it in 2001. Made me cry (because we still didn't have it at all then)

Alex · 06-15-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Alex: I like the idea... not as an overlay, but perhaps as a new installation. After all, DCA doesn't have a Peter Pan, and guests freaking love it.

I'm somewhat strongly of the opinion that if Peter Pan had never been built and were opened as a completely new ride that it wouldn't be any better liked than Winnie the Pooh in Adventureland. Actually, I think that's true of all the Fantasyland dark rides.

Morrigoon · 06-15-2009, 03:44 PM

I think technology is better appreciated in the context of what was available when it was built. Plus the whole nostalgia thing. Pooh is barren, thematically. If you really look around at the amount of barely-filled space and compare that with the level of detail available in the older dark rides, Pooh comes off weak. IMHO.

innerSpaceman · 06-15-2009, 03:49 PM

Yeah, I'd have to disagree, speaking just for myself. I love Monsters, Inc., built afterwards in typical dark ride style.

So it's not the form or the limitations of it ... it's the limitations on creativity, storytelling, and implementation. Pooh sucks.

Oh, and since Peter Pan is likely the most popular attraction in Disneyland, I think it would be a success if built tomorrow.

RStar · 06-15-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dlrp_bopazot

yes we had the MSEP from 1992 to 2003 then it has been replaced by Disney's Fantillusion and the fun part is that we took your Pinochio and snow white floats had been added to our Parade in 1997 then now the Parade has been shipped to California and you took the floats back .

Remember Pinnochio and Snow White were missing since 2001 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQHRvkExrKY

May be Morrigoon saw the Parade when she was here in 2001 ?

That's cool. I remember it went somewhere, but I wasn't sure if it was Paris.

Alex · 06-15-2009, 03:54 PM

And I disagree. I think Peter Pan is popular precisely because it is old and the best of the old ones.

I explicitly didn't include Monsters, Inc., in the comparison. If a Peter Pan ride were opened today then I believe (as always with the subjective, IMO) it would have to be much more kinetic than it is to receive the same adoration it gets now.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'd say that for most people this particular group of people interacts with regularly on matters Disney, nostalgia is driving a significant portion of appreciation. But I think it leads to an overestimation of how well old ideas, generally recreated today, would do (and I know that nothing Morrigoon said necessarily was a description of such, just rambling).

Morrigoon · 06-15-2009, 03:56 PM

People like flying cars. (or pirate ships) They can't help themselves. And the bit flying over London is magical.

I like Monsters, but there are parts of that ride that bother me. Mostly, the end with the CDA and all the tarps. But again, that's because there's very little in that scene besides a bunch of tarps and an animatronic with a fan. The scene in Harryhausen's, by contrast, is alive with fine details. Actually, most of Monsters is great, but the weak finale weakens the overall impression of the ride.

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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	I missed it in 2000 but I did catch it in 2001. Made me cry (because we still didn't have it at all then) __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	I think technology is better appreciated in the context of what was available when it was built. Plus the whole nostalgia thing. Pooh is barren, thematically. If you really look around at the amount of barely-filled space and compare that with the level of detail available in the older dark rides, Pooh comes off weak. IMHO. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, I'd have to disagree, speaking just for myself. I love Monsters, Inc., built afterwards in typical dark ride style. So it's not the form or the limitations of it ... it's the limitations on creativity, storytelling, and implementation. Pooh sucks. Oh, and since Peter Pan is likely the most popular attraction in Disneyland, I think it would be a success if built tomorrow.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	And I disagree. I think Peter Pan is popular precisely because it is old and the best of the old ones. I explicitly didn't include Monsters, Inc., in the comparison. If a Peter Pan ride were opened today then I believe (as always with the subjective, IMO) it would have to be much more kinetic than it is to receive the same adoration it gets now. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'd say that for most people this particular group of people interacts with regularly on matters Disney, nostalgia is driving a significant portion of appreciation. But I think it leads to an overestimation of how well old ideas, generally recreated today, would do (and I know that nothing Morrigoon said necessarily was a description of such, just rambling).
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06-15-2009, 03:56 PM	#40
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	People like flying cars. (or pirate ships) They can't help themselves. And the bit flying over London is magical. I like Monsters, but there are parts of that ride that bother me. Mostly, the end with the CDA and all the tarps. But again, that's because there's very little in that scene besides a bunch of tarps and an animatronic with a fan. The scene in Harryhausen's, by contrast, is alive with fine details. Actually, most of Monsters is great, but the weak finale weakens the overall impression of the ride. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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