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Old 07-01-2009, 07:18 PM   #71
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Interesting theory. I suppose sort of like how hippies were a fraction of the population, yet have come to represent the time?
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:58 PM   #72
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Interesting theory. I suppose sort of like how hippies were a fraction of the population, yet have come to represent the time?
or beatniks, or ravers, or punk rockers, or flappers...
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:04 PM   #73
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Well put, although I do not instantly think of goths when I think of the 90's (ravers yes, to some extent), so I suppose only time will show us what the standout style of the decade is/was.

I do think the recession will be the marker for the change into whatever the next "decade" will be (eg: whatever we'll remember the 20-teens for)
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:36 PM   #74
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I disagree. The internet came first, now net neutrality and censorship are political issues. Napster was some guy programming, now it's big legal history. iTunes and cell providers didn't come out of government maneuvers. Twitter is what moved the Iranian protests forward...
I am not saying that the flow is 100% in one direction. That would be nonsensical. I'm saying the direction of influence is predominantly in one direction.

And Twitter has not driven the Iranian protests, though it is certainly a popular idea among Twitterers.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:42 PM   #75
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And Twitter has not driven the Iranian protests, though it is certainly a popular idea among Twitterers.
Would you say it's been a significant organizing force?
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It hasn't driven it, but it did facilitate it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:49 PM   #77
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Would you say it's been a significant organizing force?
According to most of the people I've seen interviewed about it actually in Iran? No.

But I'm sure that it played some role.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:52 PM   #78
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It certainly played a role (for better or for worse) in worldwide reaction.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:05 PM   #79
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No argument there.
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I believe it was only the first day or so where twitter made a big difference. The gov't had shut down all hardwire internet access in an attempt to smother organization and transfer of video/photos, but cell service was still up.

Since then I heard that they turn off all internet service (including on phones) from 4pm until the morning. I don't know if this is still happening.
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