The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 461

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2009, 03:18 PM

I wish I weren't paying as much attention, but Obama's Chief of Staff, Rom Emmanuel, said two days ago that a public option for health care is likely out of the picture now ... and that the White House will likely agree to competition among insurance companies with a public option to kick in ONLY if it's "deemed" the insurance companies aren't competing honestly enough ... barely hidden code word for NEVER.

The public option which Barack has been on and on about was ALREADY the compromise from single-payer health care, which roughly 80% of Americans want. That was ruled off the table from the get-go. So now the insurance companies are getting their way, it looks like, in eliminating the public option which they claim will put them out of business. Pfft, my hyperbole skills have nothing on the insurance industry.

Something like $700 billion was given away to wall street investment banks with no strings attached. Obama haranged Congress to pass the bill without even reading it, telling them failure to do so would lead to, and I quote, "economic catastrophe." Seems my hyperbole skills have nothing on Obama either. Result of this boondoggle? Credit markets have not loosened up - banks merely pocketed the money, or used to pursue acquisitions in other parts of the world. Oh, and barely 3% of loans approaching foreclosure have been renegotiated to keep people in their houses.

How are these not the acts and telegraphed intentions of a corporate-tool, weatlhy-first president?

What about his backsliding on the Guantanemo prisoners? There are conflicting statement this week from the Justice Dept and the top military brass on whether evidence obtained through torture will be admitted. Why is there no clarity on NO IT WON'T. And, most disgusting of all, the administration now says many of the "enemy combatants" will simply be held forever without charge.

Bush Much? What the Fvck, OBAMA????

Where's my one-issue politics? I haven't even mentioned the plethora of gay betrayals.

JWBear · 07-10-2009, 03:33 PM

I too am getting very, very disapointed in Obama.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-11-2009, 08:45 AM

Have to say, it's a convincing post,

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JWBear · 07-21-2009, 06:29 PM

American experiences French medical system when he has to seek emergency treatment in Paris.

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Morrigoon · 07-22-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

American experiences French medical system when he has to seek emergency treatment in Paris.

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Compelling. And one of the better accounts of care in another country I've heard (specifics, rather than generalities, will do a lot better job of currying my favor)

I don't even want to think of the medical bills my dad's going to have after his recent hospital stay. At least he's got medicare and supplemental insurance. If the same thing had happened to me, I'd pretty much have to declare bankruptcy. No other way around it. (And that's not fair to the doctors, who deserve to be paid for their work)

alphabassettgrrl · 07-22-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

I don't even want to think of the medical bills my dad's going to have after his recent hospital stay. At least he's got medicare and supplemental insurance. If the same thing had happened to me, I'd pretty much have to declare bankruptcy.

That is one of the big things that's wrong with the current system. I'm in the same boat.

innerSpaceman · 07-22-2009, 10:53 AM

Ok, six months are up. Calling scaeagles, calling Mr. scaeagles!!

scaeagles · 07-22-2009, 11:34 AM

Indeed they are up. I've been out of town the last few days, but will most certainly be posting something soon.

Scrooge McSam · 07-22-2009, 01:59 PM

Out of town, eh?

Nice trip?

wendybeth · 07-22-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Out of town, eh?

Nice trip?

I'll bet ours was funner.

(Hi, Sam!)

07-10-2009, 03:18 PM	#4601
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I wish I weren't paying as much attention, but Obama's Chief of Staff, Rom Emmanuel, said two days ago that a public option for health care is likely out of the picture now ... and that the White House will likely agree to competition among insurance companies with a public option to kick in ONLY if it's "deemed" the insurance companies aren't competing honestly enough ... barely hidden code word for NEVER. The public option which Barack has been on and on about was ALREADY the compromise from single-payer health care, which roughly 80% of Americans want. That was ruled off the table from the get-go. So now the insurance companies are getting their way, it looks like, in eliminating the public option which they claim will put them out of business. Pfft, my hyperbole skills have nothing on the insurance industry. Something like $700 billion was given away to wall street investment banks with no strings attached. Obama haranged Congress to pass the bill without even reading it, telling them failure to do so would lead to, and I quote, "economic catastrophe." Seems my hyperbole skills have nothing on Obama either. Result of this boondoggle? Credit markets have not loosened up - banks merely pocketed the money, or used to pursue acquisitions in other parts of the world. Oh, and barely 3% of loans approaching foreclosure have been renegotiated to keep people in their houses. How are these not the acts and telegraphed intentions of a corporate-tool, weatlhy-first president? What about his backsliding on the Guantanemo prisoners? There are conflicting statement this week from the Justice Dept and the top military brass on whether evidence obtained through torture will be admitted. Why is there no clarity on NO IT WON'T. And, most disgusting of all, the administration now says many of the "enemy combatants" will simply be held forever without charge. Bush Much? What the Fvck, OBAMA???? Where's my one-issue politics? I haven't even mentioned the plethora of gay betrayals.
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07-10-2009, 03:33 PM	#4602
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	I too am getting very, very disapointed in Obama. __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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07-11-2009, 08:45 AM	#4603
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Have to say, it's a convincing post, .
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07-21-2009, 06:29 PM	#4604
JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	American experiences French medical system when he has to seek emergency treatment in Paris. Link __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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07-22-2009, 10:53 AM	#4607
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Ok, six months are up. Calling scaeagles, calling Mr. scaeagles!!
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07-22-2009, 11:34 AM	#4608
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Indeed they are up. I've been out of town the last few days, but will most certainly be posting something soon.
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07-22-2009, 01:59 PM	#4609
Scrooge McSam What? Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,635	Out of town, eh? Nice trip?
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