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[Alex]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Not giving an officer your ID when asked and telling him "you don't know who you're messing with" is pretty uncooperative. Presenting an ID to an officer is standard for anyone who is stopped by a cop. "Yeah, I'll speak to your mama outside" to a request to step out to the porch is pretty belligerent. Disorderly conduct is disorderly conduct.

Yes, and that type of "disorderly conduct" is not illegal. As said above an actual charge of disorderly conduct in Massachusetts means likely to incite violence or social interruption. Not simply being loud and calling someone names (especially when doing so on your own property).

And Gates did provide ID proving who he was. He simply refused to come out onto the porch when initially asked (which, by law, he was not required to do unless he was being arrested). Generally, unless you are being arrested you are not legally required to provide identification to the police, though not doing so when asked certainly will ramp of the chances of getting a bull**** arrest of this nature.