Here Be Vampires! - Page 4

Betty · 07-30-2009, 09:31 AM

Jessica's pretty cute I think (in True Blood) but she has more of a minor roll.

Not Afraid · 07-30-2009, 09:49 AM

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But, yeah, it seems most screen vampirism is stuck in the male vampire / female victim mold.

(Aside from some Anne Rice and 2 of the Stackhouse books, I haven't read any vampire lit, so I've no idea if the old trope holds sway in most books.)

Stoker had strong (but) supporting roles for his female vampries. In Victorian society, they were the opposite of what a proper Victorian lady should be. They went after their male victims with tons of sexuality completely distant from the sexually repressed Victorian woman. Although, The Count was portrayed as more "evil" while the women were much more compassionate as vampires.

Betty · 07-30-2009, 10:03 AM

I'm not much for the gory scary vampire stuff. Give me the hot and sexy, bad boy and yes, even the emo ones.

Pru - glad you're reading them and I totally agree - no redeeming social values as all. But fun reads! I liked them all - but book 5 with Vishous is I think my favorite although I liked book 2 and 3 as well. book 6 was just okay and the last one that came out okay too - maybe a little better then that.

THe stories go from romance with some action to action with some romance.

I also enjoyed the overall story arc that goes through the books so it's important to read them in the right order.

Betty · 07-30-2009, 10:12 AM

The Dark Hunter book series is also a fun read. Some are vampire related and all revolve around various pantheons with gods of all sorts. I read the first book and thought it was just okay - but really got into the series as it went on and have read them all now. There's a story arc that goes through all the dark hunter series though so read them in order.

The Dream Hunter series by the same author is not Vampire related but the story intertwines heavily with the Dark Hunter series so I recommend reading both series in the authors reading order. New book is out in 4 days and I will find a way to buy it - even low on funds as I currently am.

innerSpaceman · 07-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Stoker had strong (but) supporting roles for his female vampries. In Victorian society, they were the opposite of what a proper Victorian lady should be.

I don't know that I've ever read the original. But in my fave version, the Francis, Lucy* is a really hot female vampire (and human total vamp) ... um, while she lasts (not long).

* Lucy and Mina's names are switched in some versions. Francis's has it switched from others I've seen, but I've no idea which way it was in the original. I'm pretty sure in the old school Bela, the "good girl" love object was Lucy ... but in Francis's she was Mina.

Not Afraid · 07-30-2009, 10:55 AM

Lucy is Mina's best friend. Mina is Jonothan Harker's fiance. Lucy is the first to be bitten and changes before everyone's eyes. She lustfully goes after her love interest (Authur?) and her behavior become inappropriate for a Victorian woman. Mina remains virtuous a while longer.

I think Coppola had it correct (although, it had been a while since I've seen that version).

This whole topic is making me want to see The Cabinet of Dr. Calligari again (not a vampire, but a somnambulist that is not too far off from Vampire lore).

innerSpaceman · 07-30-2009, 11:18 AM

Yeah, I think Universal was pretty keen on plain-Jane names when they made their "Horror Classics." So "Lucy" becomes the main gal in Dracula, while Dr. Victor is changed to Dr. Henry in Frankenstein. Hahaha.

flippyshark · 07-30-2009, 01:19 PM

The proper Lucy/Mina order is preserved in the breathtaking play adaptation Dracula: Blood of Nosferatu by an author who clearly doesn't mind plugging himself shamelessly. Feel free to purchase, though be advised that a revised edition is coming out in the Fall.

innerSpaceman · 07-30-2009, 02:09 PM

Oh Brother.

(And can we have the rights to stage a west coast production?)

Snowflake · 07-30-2009, 02:40 PM

Hmmm, this seems the proper spot to put this, Johnny Depp & Tim Burton are likely to do Dark Shadows.

I can totally see Depp as Barnabas Collins, about time he did a vampire flick!

But, seriously, Pirates IV?????????

Why?? (besides the obvious carloads of money)

They lost me at Pirates II (and I do not mean to derail the vamping thread)

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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	I'm not much for the gory scary vampire stuff. Give me the hot and sexy, bad boy and yes, even the emo ones. Pru - glad you're reading them and I totally agree - no redeeming social values as all. But fun reads! I liked them all - but book 5 with Vishous is I think my favorite although I liked book 2 and 3 as well. book 6 was just okay and the last one that came out okay too - maybe a little better then that. THe stories go from romance with some action to action with some romance. I also enjoyed the overall story arc that goes through the books so it's important to read them in the right order. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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07-30-2009, 10:12 AM	#34
Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	The Dark Hunter book series is also a fun read. Some are vampire related and all revolve around various pantheons with gods of all sorts. I read the first book and thought it was just okay - but really got into the series as it went on and have read them all now. There's a story arc that goes through all the dark hunter series though so read them in order. The Dream Hunter series by the same author is not Vampire related but the story intertwines heavily with the Dark Hunter series so I recommend reading both series in the authors reading order. New book is out in 4 days and I will find a way to buy it - even low on funds as I currently am. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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07-30-2009, 10:55 AM	#36
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Lucy is Mina's best friend. Mina is Jonothan Harker's fiance. Lucy is the first to be bitten and changes before everyone's eyes. She lustfully goes after her love interest (Authur?) and her behavior become inappropriate for a Victorian woman. Mina remains virtuous a while longer. I think Coppola had it correct (although, it had been a while since I've seen that version). This whole topic is making me want to see The Cabinet of Dr. Calligari again (not a vampire, but a somnambulist that is not too far off from Vampire lore).
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07-30-2009, 11:18 AM	#37
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, I think Universal was pretty keen on plain-Jane names when they made their "Horror Classics." So "Lucy" becomes the main gal in Dracula, while Dr. Victor is changed to Dr. Henry in Frankenstein. Hahaha.
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07-30-2009, 01:19 PM	#38
flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	The proper Lucy/Mina order is preserved in the breathtaking play adaptation Dracula: Blood of Nosferatu by an author who clearly doesn't mind plugging himself shamelessly. Feel free to purchase, though be advised that a revised edition is coming out in the Fall.
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07-30-2009, 02:09 PM	#39
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh Brother. (And can we have the rights to stage a west coast production?)
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Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Hmmm, this seems the proper spot to put this, Johnny Depp & Tim Burton are likely to do Dark Shadows. I can totally see Depp as Barnabas Collins, about time he did a vampire flick! But, seriously, Pirates IV????????? Why?? (besides the obvious carloads of money) They lost me at Pirates II (and I do not mean to derail the vamping thread)
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