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Old 08-16-2009, 07:35 PM   #1
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A mandate won't help me get insurance- I don't have insurance because I can't afford it. Forcing me to pay for it won't make it more affordable.

You want to mandate a low plan that has a set pricetag, we might have something. What I want (personally) is a plan that covers only the big stuff- that I couldn't handle on my own. Like cancer or a car wreck. I'll pay for the preventive stuff that's quick and easy.

What I fear is we will get a minimum plan that covers the cheap stuff and still leaves me holding the bag for something big, and that's the one they'll force me to buy.

This "mandating" buying of insurance is the part that has me most concerned. I *can't* and nobody seems to address that in the politician world. And there are a lot of people worse off than I am, who will be bankrupted by having to buy insurance they can't afford.
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Old 08-16-2009, 08:02 PM   #2
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A mandate won't help me get insurance- I don't have insurance because I can't afford it. Forcing me to pay for it won't make it more affordable.


The bill includes not just a mandate, but if you can't afford it, methods for providing you credits that allow you to purchase it anyway.


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You want to mandate a low plan that has a set pricetag, we might have something. What I want (personally) is a plan that covers only the big stuff- that I couldn't handle on my own. Like cancer or a car wreck. I'll pay for the preventive stuff that's quick and easy.
Then you don't want the Democratic plan at all even if it does have a public option. All versions of the bill would essentially make such catastrophic coverage impossible.

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What I fear is we will get a minimum plan that covers the cheap stuff and still leaves me holding the bag for something big, and that's the one they'll force me to buy.
The main plan being considered requires coverage of all the small stuff, you can't be dropped when you get sick, and has a cap on personal expenditures within a year of $5,000 ($10,000 for a family). After those "deductibles" you're coverage is essentially 100% and unlimited.

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This "mandating" buying of insurance is the part that has me most concerned.
Well, the public option wouldn't help with that either. It wasn't to be free. And it wouldn't necessarily be a lot cheaper than current private insurance. That's why it includes affordability credits (if I'm remembering that part of the bill credits were on a sliding scale all the way up to 97% of cost).
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:58 AM   #3
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What I want (personally) is a plan that covers only the big stuff- that I couldn't handle on my own. Like cancer or a car wreck. I'll pay for the preventive stuff that's quick and easy.
I have a "catastrophic" policy through Blue Cross Anthem. I believe it's $70 a month (mom and dad graciously picked up the tab).
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:40 AM   #4
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The Obama administration filed court papers Monday claiming a federal marriage law discriminates against gays, even as government lawyers continued to defend it. Justice Department lawyers are seeking to dismiss a suit brought by a gay California couple challenging the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. The administration's response to the case has angered gay activists who see it as backtracking on campaign promises made by Barack Obama last year.
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I can't tell if Obama means it or if he's trying to distract the conservative wackos, give them something else to scream about instead of health care...
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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I can't tell if Obama means it or if he's trying to distract the conservative wackos, give them something else to scream about instead of health care...
Smart move. Give the media something new to obsess about; the astroturfers will be yesterday's news...
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At a town hall meeting in New Orleans Thursday, fourth-grader Terence Scott earnestly asked the question that has probably been on many people's minds as they witnessed the rage that has been directed at Obama these last few months: "why do people hate you?" The young man seemed genuinely concerned as he asked the question, and he went on to tell Obama that "They supposed to love you." Obama responded by giving the young man a hug while saying, "That's what I'm talking about." Then came the hard part of actually answering his question.
Obama Asked "Why Do People Hate You?" at a Town Hall Meeting

Half of me found the clip touching. Half of me thinks it was staged either with Obama's knowledge or without. Yes, that's why the sign of the twins is in my user name. One twin is idealistic, the other is a cynic.

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Obama Asked "Why Do People Hate You?" at a Town Hall Meeting

Half of me found the clip touching. Half of me thinks it was staged either with Obama's knowledge or without. Yes, that's why the sign of the twins is in my user name. One twin is idealistic, the other is a cynic.
Ummm... While cute, that video had nothing to do with Obama.
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Ummm... While cute, that video had nothing to do with Obama.
lol! Thanks!


That was the other clip I was going to post at YouTubery.


Fixed. The link not the doggies.
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