The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 498

Gemini Cricket · 09-17-2009, 12:28 PM

Ding ding ding! We have a winnah!

Andrew · 09-17-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Ding ding ding! We have a winnah!

I must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Gemini Cricket again.

Alex · 09-17-2009, 01:40 PM

The only thing I strongly disagree with is the very first panel. Yes, by the end they were mostly focused on things he'd actually done. But early on, in my opinion, the Bush hatred was very much focused on the slippery slope and nonsensical arguments (oh how many "here's Bush's secret plan to make himself a dictator" discussions there were).

But I suppose that is the nature of early-Administration hatred versus late-Administration hatred. When you're going to hate someone regardless and they haven't done anything you have to make up reasons, only time allows for pinning it to past actions.

innerSpaceman · 09-17-2009, 02:13 PM

George Bush had plenty of stuff I hated him for before he was president. He was already on my most-loathed list before there was ever consideration of him running. That doesn't speak for everybody, but I think he was already on the radar screens of a large number of progressives as a brutal, barbaric governor.

Betty · 09-17-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I must spread some Mojo around before giving it to Gemini Cricket again.

No worries - I mojo'd him up good!

JWBear · 09-17-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

The only thing I strongly disagree with is the very first panel. Yes, by the end they were mostly focused on things he'd actually done. But early on, in my opinion, the Bush hatred was very much focused on the slippery slope and nonsensical arguments (oh how many "here's Bush's secret plan to make himself a dictator" discussions there were).

But I suppose that is the nature of early-Administration hatred versus late-Administration hatred. When you're going to hate someone regardless and they haven't done anything you have to make up reasons, only time allows for pinning it to past actions.

IIRQ, most of the protests didn't happen until after he started the Iraq war.

JWBear · 09-17-2009, 04:45 PM

Oh, BTW...

VGCM!!

Alex · 09-17-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear

IIRQ, most of the protests didn't happen until after he started the Iraq war.

Then you don't recall correctly. Was there marching in the streets much? No, but that isn't what the first panel says. Was there much baseless hatred and doomsday-ism? Yes? Hell, even with the war much of the early criticism was based not so much on what he was doing but on exaggerated fears of what he really wanted to be doing and would slowly but surely actually do (many of which ended with him canceling elections and seizing lifelong dictatorial control).

innerSpaceman · 09-17-2009, 05:25 PM

Did the early concerns have anything to do with him being a despicable governor? Or perhaps concerns were valid from the presidential get-go since he got going via coup d'etat.

Alex · 09-17-2009, 05:29 PM

Yes, I believe that is generally the rationalization.

"Our reasons for hating your guy are based solidly on fact. Your reasons for hating our guy are loony loony."

I'm not denying there were solid grounds on which to dislike Bush (and Obama now). I'm just saying that the left-wing crazy-people farts don't smell any better than right-wing crazy people farts.

I'm also not denying that the right-wing crazy people farts have gone more mainstream than did the left-wing crazy people farts.

I like saying X-wing crazy people farts. This will probably disrupt future Star Wars viewings.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The only thing I strongly disagree with is the very first panel. Yes, by the end they were mostly focused on things he'd actually done. But early on, in my opinion, the Bush hatred was very much focused on the slippery slope and nonsensical arguments (oh how many "here's Bush's secret plan to make himself a dictator" discussions there were). But I suppose that is the nature of early-Administration hatred versus late-Administration hatred. When you're going to hate someone regardless and they haven't done anything you have to make up reasons, only time allows for pinning it to past actions.
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09-17-2009, 02:13 PM	#4974
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	George Bush had plenty of stuff I hated him for before he was president. He was already on my most-loathed list before there was ever consideration of him running. That doesn't speak for everybody, but I think he was already on the radar screens of a large number of progressives as a brutal, barbaric governor.
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JWBear Worn Romantic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Beach California Posts: 8,435	Oh, BTW... VGCM!! __________________ Unrestrained frivolity will lead to the downfall of modern society.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Did the early concerns have anything to do with him being a despicable governor? Or perhaps concerns were valid from the presidential get-go since he got going via coup d'etat.
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09-17-2009, 05:29 PM	#4980
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Yes, I believe that is generally the rationalization. "Our reasons for hating your guy are based solidly on fact. Your reasons for hating our guy are loony loony." I'm not denying there were solid grounds on which to dislike Bush (and Obama now). I'm just saying that the left-wing crazy-people farts don't smell any better than right-wing crazy people farts. I'm also not denying that the right-wing crazy people farts have gone more mainstream than did the left-wing crazy people farts. I like saying X-wing crazy people farts. This will probably disrupt future Star Wars viewings.
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