The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Gemini Cricket]

The people that act like there's no racism in our country tick me off. And if one has never experienced something it doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
My 2 cents.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

So you endorse using cries of racism as a political tool?

I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

Remember... If a Republican does something bad, it's a Democrat's fault.

[innerSpaceman]

I used to assume most Californians were not homophobes, because I never encountered any. A certain election proved me wrong.


Don't let your limited personal experience persuade you racism in America is dead. Pfft.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Gn2Dlnd

I do?

I thought I simply expressed a desire to see the political discourse in the country become a little better mannered. Racist me, keepin' down the white man.

It was a genuine question.

You had said you hoped people were so afraid of being called racists they wouldn't oppose the President. The only reason they would have that fear is if a charge of racism was a used and accepted political tool when no racism exists.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Remember... If a Republican does something bad, it's a Democrat's fault.

And when a democrat does something wrong, it's right wing conspiracy.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

And when a democrat does something wrong, it's right wing conspiracy.

Damn right!

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Yes, there was vitriol directed at Bush. But, as I have pointed out before, they were mostly directed at what he had actually done. The vitriol directed at Obama is of a whole different order. Not only are they protesting over things that Obama hasn't done or has no intention of doing (Sending conservatives to concentration camps?! WTF?), but they are doing so in near violent paranoid delusional manner.

Most of the silly claims against Bush just caused me to roll my eyes. The things these birthers and teabaggers come up with truely frighten me.

Delude yourself that these are merely mild mannered conservatives protesting Obama's "spendthrift" policies all you want. Their signs and shouts tell a different story.

JW summed up my intended response perfectly. The Great Deciderer and his cronies pushed the war, deregulation, changed the rules on enemy combatants, denied due process to citizens of this country, and........bloody hell, the list goes on forever. Most of the people who are so angry right now are angry at the wrong person, but Obama knew when he took office this would happen. I don't remember too many elected officials disrespecting the President when he addressed the House, or inciting people to violence or talk of secession. They also manipulated terror warnings for political gain- That was the reason for the Goering statement by Byrd, and if you have a problem with that, then go talk to Tom Ridge. People are so pissed at what Obama might do, when they should be furious at what GW did do.

[scaeagles]

I'm angry at a 787 billion dollar stimulus. So yeah, there's anger at things he has done. And anger at things he says he wants to do.

I find it a bit scarier that people accused Bush of planning 9/11 than anything anyone has accused Obama of thus far. And last I checked....Bush didn't plan it.

[Strangler Lewis]

Originally Posted by Alex

Yes. It is a lie (if my suspicion is correct, just because I think he is motivated by X doesn't mean I'm right; though I always am). But it is both a politic and a political lie.

In the same category as how you answer "do these pants make me look fat?".

In short, it's a white lie.