The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[tod]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Tod,

With all due respect, unless you have read all 104 pages in this thread, you really don't know what is actually going on.

Excellent point. I took "the old tired argments" to mean the old tired right-wing arguments.

Please excuse my ignorance of the 100+ pages that preceded this one.

--t

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by tod

Excellent point. I took "the old tired argments" to mean the old tired right-wing arguments.

Please excuse my ignorance of the 100+ pages that preceded this one.

--t

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Your assumption as to what I am referring to is completely wrong. The fact that you are hardly around is enough for me to say you shouldn't form opinions about things you don't understand.

I used to think LoT was awesome because we could have political discussions without people trolling or name calling. But it seems that it was all an illusion.

I'm taking my own advice. When an actual political discussion can be had without the same people beating the same dead horse I'll come back and play.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Your assumption as to what I am referring to is completely wrong. The fact that you are hardly around is enough for me to say you shouldn't form opinions about things you don't understand.

I used to think LoT was awesome because we could have political discussions without people trolling or name calling. But it seems that it was all an illusion.

I'm taking my own advice. When an actual political discussion can be had without the same people beating the same dead horse I'll come back and play.

Please quote where I have called anyone names in this discussion.

Some of us are simply tired of our right leaning friends here defending the Republican party at all costs - especially with what is going on right now. It seems to me that most Republicans (include most of my family) seem incapable of criticizing their party and fellow Republicans, or even recognizing that there is something to criticize. This attitude of "party first, before country" is something I am just unable to fathom. It boggles my mind.

And yes, I know that there are some Democrats with that attitude, and I have just as much disdain for them. But it is far less prevalent on that side of the fence. Blind obedience to party seems to be a much more right-wing thing.

[tod]

Originally Posted by tod

Excellent point. I took "the old tired argments" to mean the old tired right-wing arguments.

Please excuse my ignorance of the 100+ pages that preceded this one.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Your assumption as to what I am referring to is completely wrong. The fact that you are hardly around is enough for me to say you shouldn't form opinions about things you don't understand.

My apology was sincere. I stepped in the middle of an ongoing 100+ page discussion and misinterpreted what "old tired arguments" meant.

I apologized and retreated. That's all I can do.

Sorry about that. I'll tread more carefully in future.

--t

[Tref]

Originally Posted by tod

I'll tread more carefully in future.

Take that back!

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

You really have no idea what you're talking about. Your assumption as to what I am referring to is completely wrong. The fact that you are hardly around is enough for me to say you shouldn't form opinions about things you don't understand.

I used to think LoT was awesome because we could have political discussions without people trolling or name calling. But it seems that it was all an illusion.

I'm taking my own advice. When an actual political discussion can be had without the same people beating the same dead horse I'll come back and play.

I have to say I find this petty and offensive. I am here, then I disappear for a while and then I'm back. Do you seriously mean that if someone hasn't been around much that their opinion and/or insight is any less valid and by implication, yours is superior? And if they are wrong they are attacked even if they apologize? Really? Because excuse me, you don't always know what the hell you're talking about either and I have never seen someone essentially say, "go away, we don't give a f**k what you think." I may not be around enough in your eyes to have a valid opinion but I'll give it to you anyway. This was incredibly rude (and before you say so, I don't give a s**t if he was mistaken, my statement stands). Wow.

I'd also point out that in this post you are perpetuating that which you claim to despise. You might want to think about that.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by bewitched

I have to say I find this petty and offensive. I am here, then I disappear for a while and then I'm back. Do you seriously mean that if someone hasn't been around much that their opinion and/or insight is any less valid and by implication, yours is superior? And if they are wrong they are attacked even if they apologize? Really? Because excuse me, you don't always know what the hell you're talking about either and I have never seen someone essentially say, "go away, we don't give a f**k what you think." I may not be around enough in your eyes to have a valid opinion but I'll give it to you anyway. This was incredibly rude (and before you say so, I don't give a s**t if he was mistaken, my statement stands). Wow.

I'd also point out that in this post you are perpetuating that which you claim to despise. You might want to think about that.

26 posts, vs over 1k. Huge difference. Jumping in to the middle of a board dynamic discussion vs. a political (or other) discussion. Huge difference. Reread what I said. I'm not saying what you think I'm saying and I stand by it. Be offended if you want. I'm tired of the same damn horse being beaten in this thread. It's nearly impossible to have a poltiical discussion because the poor horse is dragged out by someone sooner rather than later and we are back to where we started.

[bewitched]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

26 posts, vs over 1k. Huge difference. Jumping in to the middle of a board dynamic discussion vs. a political (or other) discussion. Huge difference. Reread what I said. I'm not saying what you think I'm saying and I stand by it.

You are saying that if you don't have a high enough post count you have no right to form opinions/comment on board dynamics. In this thread, you don't have to be rocket scientist to figure the general dynamics out. But that's immaterial. My point is your statement was incredibly rude.

I stand by that.

[bewitched]

Oh, and I agree with one thing; the same dead horse is dragged out time and time again...only for me that dead horse is the inevitable bitching about said dead horse.

[3894]

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

26 posts, vs over 1k. Huge difference. Jumping in to the middle of a board dynamic discussion vs. a political (or other) discussion. Huge difference. Reread what I said. I'm not saying what you think I'm saying and I stand by it. Be offended if you want. I'm tired of the same damn horse being beaten in this thread. It's nearly impossible to have a poltiical discussion because the poor horse is dragged out by someone sooner rather than later and we are back to where we started.

I get what you're saying, BTD... I think. From my perspective, it depends on whether LoT is a local, Los Angeles area-based club for people in their 20's and 30's who socialize with each other IRL or whether it's a message board open to everyone. If it's a message board open to everyone, some nuances are going to slip through the cracks and that's going to have to be okay.

As long as I've been hanging around the fringes, my jury's still out on what the LoT is, you enigmatic darlings.

2. The Wall Street Journal is a damn fine newspaper but only if you ignore the editorials.