High School Cheerleaders in Trouble for Bible Verse Banners

[innerSpaceman]

Well, it's just that "cramming it down your throat" is so appropriate for the gay theme.

[flippyshark]

*snort-snicker*

[Ghoulish Delight]

Catholic High School Girls in Trouble most definitely NSFW!!!



(I copied the link, did not actually load the video, seeing as I am at work, so I'm not positive it's a valid link)

[alphabassettgrrl]

Originally Posted by Jazzman

Ultimately, I guess I have to wonder why stuff like this freaks people out so much. It's just some phrases on butcher paper, not a forced re-education camp.

It works to ostracize those who aren't "in." If I don't believe in the god of the banner, what do I get to do while they're standing there with it and everybody else is cheering it? I get to sit essentially by myself and it is clear that I am on the outside.

I find it generally objectionable to put a sectarian happening into what is ostensibly a public (and unrelated) event. If I go to a football game, I don't want it to feel like a religious event. I want sports, not a revival.

[flippyshark]

Link works fine - Oh my, I saw that movie when I was MUCH too young for it. What a nostalgia kick.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

It works to ostracize those who aren't "in." If I don't believe in the god of the banner, what do I get to do while they're standing there with it and everybody else is cheering it? I get to sit essentially by myself and it is clear that I am on the outside.

What happened to cheering for the team? Who would know who is cheering for Jesus, who is cheering for the team and who is cheering in hopes that someone loses their top?

I'd be more inclined to have some sort of "outrage" if someone directly involved (cheerleader, player or student) had an issue. Like HR told us in a training "you can't be offended on someone's behalf. If it bothers you then you are offended. But you can't report it because the person directly involved might or might not be". I am so sick of faux outrage on behalf of people who don't know they should be offended.

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

If I go to a football game, I don't want it to feel like a religious event. I want sports, not a revival.

Then you should stay away from any sporting even that plays God Bless America (aka Ducks games when the Stars are in town), any sporting event where the player thanks god (football games) and audience members have bible verses painted on their chests. Oh and awards ceremonies where the recipient thanks god.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I'm not offended on anybody else's part. I don't like it. If this were my high school, I probably would either not go to the games, or show up late to avoid it. It would depend if this was the only Jesus time, or if it went on through the game.

Am I frothing about it? No. But I do find it uncomfortable, and would likely take steps to avoid the situation.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl

If I go to a football game, I don't want it to feel like a religious event. I want sports, not a revival.

Then what about singing The Star Spangled Banner? It's done at just about every professional sporting event. You either join in, or you're sitting there silent while everyone else is standing up singing. Is this cramming Patriotism down your throat?

I have it on good authority that Uncle Sam is better hung than Jesus, so isn't patriotism at least as objectionable as christianity in this context?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Then what about singing The Star Spangled Banner? It's done at just about every professional sporting event. You either join in, or you're sitting there silent while everyone else is standing up singing. Is this cramming Patriotism down your throat?

I have it on good authority that Uncle Sam is better hung than Jesus, so isn't patriotism at least as objectionable as christianity in this context?

Those damn Canadian hockey teams and the singing of the Canadian national anthem. We're in America dammit! I don't want that damn Canadian pride shoved down my throat. I feel left out because it's not my country and not my anthem.

[mousepod]

For me, the difference is that "God Bless America" is generic enough to include any god. It's not offensive to this atheist, because it's a love song to the country - asking for divine help is the way the writer/singer chooses to express that love. Calling upon a specific deity carries more baggage for me. If Jesus was invoked at a non-religious event that this Jew was attending, I'd feel uncomfortable.